Posts by Deacon

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My stepfather died tonight

by Mulan in

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i have just finished making phone calls informing the family of the death of my stepfather.

i was an adult when he married my mother, but i loved him very much.

he was a wonderful man.. although he was a faithful jw, for his entire life (he was born to it) he was a really good man, and a true christian, i believe.

the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

JT..
Thanks..I spent an hour reading through some of his previous posts and came to the same conclusion...only in my hall, if he had admitted to hanging out wiv 'prostates...we would've dun him..lol..sigh the arrogance of the situation...

however..he is the best reason I have seen in a long time for birth control...

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

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the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

You know...

You know, you cant read or comprehend.
I stated that as an elder I would have no problem disfellowshipping you. I did not say I now serve in that capacity.

Go tell your elders of your present mindset..of your prophesies...go tell them of your involvement here..

I give you 45 minutes of their time before you are disfellowshipped.

for that is the law you are under.

I KNOW that you are classed as apostate as does every other poster on this board....

its in the rules youknow...

get this and get it good...by definition of the religion you adhere to, you are a filthy no good scummy worthless piece of dung waiting to be destroyed at Armageddon by virtue of your prophecies and being here...

Want proof? just do what I suggest above....

Approved association with Jehovahs Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible including those scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovahs Witnesses.

Watchtower April 1st 1986 page 31.

Your defence is bluster, your logic has been assailed and your grip on reality is tenuous...

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

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friends

the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

And that is the crux of the matter JT....

Is it Gods organisation going through a bad time..or is it yet another form of false religion.

But the question is...do we have anything to reform?
Are the basic tenets, doctrinal understanding, channelling from God really there within the WTBTS?
If it is, then do have to just wait for Jehovah to rectify it..

Reform can come about I suppose by waiting for Jehovah to do it....

or just by waiting..and allowing him to do it..

or by accepting that it is a false ideology and walking away..

a hard choice to be made....

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

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friends

the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

agreed Maximus.

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

jw
friends

the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

Watchtower April 1st 1986 page 31.

Approved association with Jehovahs Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible including those scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovahs Witnesses.

Acceptance as a member of the JW community is therefore conditional...

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C of C online?

by anon in

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i have seen a couple of parts.

is the whole thing at any site?

Deacon

dontcha just hate it when that happens?

gotta put the http:// in as well ..

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Anybody else had visions?

by philo in

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when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.

for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.

so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.

Deacon

REM

thanks for your comments.

It isnt the frequency of the occurences,it is the fact that they happen at all.
Im a scientific and logic based person, I can rationalize anything. Experience, professionalism and familiarity with the subject in hand all leads to intuitiveperception.

Intuition being a form of perception based knowledge not in the forefront of the brain.

However..when these things happen...it always moves on its own and I feel like I can see inside the person and just guide the resolution of it without physical contact.

During thest times, I feel completely in touch with my knowledge. my confidence and my abilities....

Maybe some energy we dont know too much about yet...

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

jw
friends

the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

mastication..?

OH!

mastication!

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Reform....why?

by Deacon in

jw
friends

the organization cannot be reformed from outside; that can only come from individuals who have the guts and will to do so inside, and the determination to get rid of hardline thinking that is so strangling.

my personal desire is to see immediate change regarding the child abuse policy, and that will come.

to see a clear, quick change in the horribly inconsistent blood policy rather than drag it out over years; kids are dying in the process.enforced shunning is also an evil that they will have to deal with eventually; it's ripping them apart.. .

Deacon

Just a side note.

YOUKNOW

if you are a practicing and believing Jehovahs Witness, your input here earns you immediate expulsion from the organisation. As an elder, I would have no problem in disfellowshipping you for apostacy. On what basis?

Promulgating theories not sanctioned by the WTBTS.
Discussions of above with d/f and d/a persons.
Association with known apostates.
Greeting known apostates.

In other words, for peddling prophecies without a licence and for hypocrisy.

You are an unrepentant practicer of sin.

Now if you are an attender, but not a believer, that is another matter.

Interested persons want to know why you dont actually practice what you appear to uphold, and why you upbraid others mightily in the sanctimonious manner of a disgruntled ignored prophet?

I am tired of being told that this way is right, or that this is wrong...I need to see genuine application of scripture from genuine searching people, not from people who go against the tenets of whatever religion they profess to believe in....without admitting that the religion or idea or doctrine is wrong...sheesh...

I still ask...is there anything worth reforming...not for social or political reasons...but for the reason of being Gods organisation?