Good to see an elder showing some common sense, don't assume he is "seeing the light though" I think people forget sometimes that JW's are human beings and individuals. Even JW elders have the ability to show empathy occasionally
Mariusuk.
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Are active JW's seeing the light?
by boyzone ini ask this because i had a strange experience this week.
for a brief bit of background knowledge i'm being shunned like most on here, but i see witnesses every day in my place of work and at the school gate, there's no avoiding them, and like many of you, i've found it really hard to get over the hurt and heartache this has caused.. yesterday my mum (an active witness) went into hospital to have a tumor removed (successfully) as i'm the only daughter nearby to help, the other witnesses were asking the elders what they were supposed to do if they wanted to visit my mum and i was at her bedside, should they talk to me or turn round and go out again.. one elder said to do that would be utterly ridiculous, of course i should be spoken to.
he was very annoyed even at the suggestion.
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***** Name a reason people wont make it through Armegeddon *****
by FlyingHighNow inlet's start a list of reasons why you were told, or overheard people telling, won't make it through the big a day.
i'll start.. 1. they don't take showing up for cleaning the kingdom hall seriously and never show up.
i overheard a sour puss old elder say this to his wife after he just gave a scolding talk on it.
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Mariusuk.
Joining an apostate exjw discussion board
Being gay
Shouting "OH GOD!!" during copulation
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STOP victimizing individual posters!
by hamsterbait inmy blood is boiling.. jcanon has as much right to post here and express his opinions as anybody else.. if you don't like his posts then don't bother commenting.. if you find his posts boring than don't bother commenting.. if you don't agree with him, then say why with evidence.. if you want to back him up then say why with evidence.. this whole "who hates **** or finds **** crap is really just descending to the level of the kindergarten playground.. everybody here has the right to be heard listened to or ignored - but not put under a spotlight of disdain and disapproval from other posters.. if i had been mocked or put down when i first came here, i would never have come back.. jc lives on this earth just like all of us.
if he destroys his credibility or repels you that is his own doing.
just don't recruit supporters of your own camp against him.. be fair to everybody, and they will be fair to you.. this was in response to the thread "who else finds jcanon's posts boring?.
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Mariusuk.
Group hug
sheesh
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Mariusuk.
The OT God certainly liked a bit of bloodshed, every firstborn in Egypt, whatever the world's population was circa Noah's day, 187,000 Assyrians, these are just a few examples that immediately spring to mind
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STOP victimizing individual posters!
by hamsterbait inmy blood is boiling.. jcanon has as much right to post here and express his opinions as anybody else.. if you don't like his posts then don't bother commenting.. if you find his posts boring than don't bother commenting.. if you don't agree with him, then say why with evidence.. if you want to back him up then say why with evidence.. this whole "who hates **** or finds **** crap is really just descending to the level of the kindergarten playground.. everybody here has the right to be heard listened to or ignored - but not put under a spotlight of disdain and disapproval from other posters.. if i had been mocked or put down when i first came here, i would never have come back.. jc lives on this earth just like all of us.
if he destroys his credibility or repels you that is his own doing.
just don't recruit supporters of your own camp against him.. be fair to everybody, and they will be fair to you.. this was in response to the thread "who else finds jcanon's posts boring?.
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Mariusuk.
Were they any actually personal attacks on that thread? I mean JC's posts are kind of ridiculous, he has a right to post whatever he wants but people have a right to comment about it. From my experience of JC on JWO the guy is more than capable of sticking up for himself, even if he is a bit of a nut. I find him funny
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This is how JW's view the change in the book study
by TooBad TooSad ina very good friend of mine is convinced that the change in the book study arrangement.
is a sign that the end is so near and the jehovah made the change to emphasize the.
importance of the meetings.
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Mariusuk.
Who does? I does?
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Is the GB crooked or just misguided?
by easyreader1970 ini ask myself this from time to time.
is the governing body operating seriously out of the belief that they are god's only channel to mankind?
or are they deliberately scamming people?
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Mariusuk.
I refuse to believe that the GB believe the bull they propogate, that would be like me believing in Santa because I tell my daughter he is real. I reckon that none of them truly believe it all anymore once they reach that heady height but they are in a catch 22, the whole thing is built upon faith and belief, therefore they ALL must act to each other that they believe because not beleiving is apostasy and therefore removal from the position they have invested sooo much energy and time attaining. Never underestimate the thrill and pleasure of being at the top of the tree, achieving your lifes work. Seriously how can they actually believe it when they are sat there changing doctrine, dates and policies on a vote. Can you imagine the conversations circa 1992? "Hmmm end is not here, the generation of 1914 are frickin' dying round our ears...... ok ideas anyone??"
Sheesh
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Found this today - My Book of Bible Stories
by kurtbethel ini was looking in a thrift store and found this gem from 1978. .
quick!
hide it from your children!.
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Mariusuk.
The difference is Harry Potter are pure works of fiction which chikdren understand. MBOBS is presented to JW children who are indoctrinated to believe all the things they see and read in it actually happened. Plus Harry Potter books are aimed at children of a reasonable age with good reading comprehension, whereas MBOBS is aimed at kids who can just about read. Personally I think it is a detestable book and would not let my daughter read it
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Do you believe in Sin?
by AK - Jeff inaccording to this report, http://www.ptm.org/uni/resources/ptmupdate/042108/sin.html;.
most americans believe in sin.. specifically, 87% of americans believe there are certain actions that are "almost always considered wrong, particularly from a religious or moral perspective.
" this is how sin was defined in a recent study by ellison research (a christian research firm) of phoenix arizona, which sampled over a thousand american adults.. .
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Mariusuk.
sin is a concept introduced to explain the failings of people. Going by the biblical definition it is also genetic. Some peope put to much stock in the concept of perfection, it is an illusion which no one has ever had nor will have, the human body and brain is perfection in a manner of speaking. I don't believe in sin, I believe in moral rightness and wrongness
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This is how JW's view the change in the book study
by TooBad TooSad ina very good friend of mine is convinced that the change in the book study arrangement.
is a sign that the end is so near and the jehovah made the change to emphasize the.
importance of the meetings.
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Mariusuk.
This is all bull
The reason for cancelling the bookstudy is because is fosters more independant thinking and is harder to regulate than the pre written KHmeetings which are basically brain washing on a stick. When I used to go to bookstudy many a moon ago, it was the place where all the speculation of what would happen post armaggeddon etc. I also think the bookstudy has been used by some fading elders to introduce a bit of independant thinking.
Since when has the WTBTS done anything for the benefit of it's adherents, hell they actively encourage kids to give up promising careers to go knocking on doors. Gas prices my ass