as you know every young couple who is planning to get married in the kh are asked a question about "clean conduct" a week or two before the wedding.
if you admit to have been fooling around to much you can forget about the kh and go and get married elsewhere.. i'm not married myself, but i was engaged to be married once and my soon-to-be father in law (an elder) recommended a certain elder to do the marriage stuff in the kh because he was a kind of easy on the mantadory questions.. fortunatly in never got that far because me and my girl split up about 2 months before the planned wedding, but i have been to a lot of kh weddings and i know for sure that some of the couples had to lie to cover up their conduct to get married in the hall.. but how common is this?.
did you lie before getting maried in the kh, or do you know someone who did?.
My ex-wife and I never had the chance to do much. We were never left alone. I remember we needed to go 3 blocks over to get some milk at the store, and her mom made her sister go with us.
So the most we ever did was what we could get away with in the living room of her moms house, knowing that someone could walk in at any moment.
i am looking for some advice to hopefully prevent me going mad.
my husband (an elder) was disf?d by the jws 8 years ago for having an affair with me and consequently leaving his wife.
he has 4 grown-up children and 9 grandchildren.
Jules,
I am very sorry about your loss, and I wish you only the best.
As far as what to believe and where is Dan exactly, you need to follow your heart. From my readings of the bible, I find that it talks about a heavenly hope for mankind, not what the witnesses teach. Either way, I have no doubt that your husband is being taken care of.
why is it that a number of people who commit the most henious of crimes, suddenly become "born again christians"--usually while sitting on death row?
do they think this somehow absolves them of what they did?
i remember when karla fay tucker was interviewed shortly before her execution (in texas) a few years ago.
I could be as simple as they have a lot of time on their hands to think.
Especially if they are on death row, they must figure to themselves that they better get their act together, because that is the last chance for them.
Others, I do believe, think it sounds good to whomever is going to help them get out.
... to try and attempt at getting through to an 70 year old elder?.
on rash impuls i wrote a letter to one elder.
a man who is most dear to me, even though my feelings towards the jw are negative at best.
I think writing him the letter was the right thing to do. He cares about you, and he deserves to know the real reasons you have not come back as a witness. You owe that to him, in my opinion.
many of the people on this site say that they are apostates.
but that is not the way i feel about myself.. i am not angry with the "witnesses" or the organisation, i don't feel that i wasted my life.
i just think that i was stupid to believe it for 30 years (well sort of believe it, i did have severe doubts on and off).
I don't want to be labeled as anything in particular.
Active witnesses no doubt consider me one. But that is their opinion, and they are entitled to that, but I wish they were more educated on the subject.
how would you respond to the following quote.....i got this from a pro jw site.
i don't post on the site, just read.......i just wanted to know how you all would respond to this post.never let anyone cause you to doubt the organization...true there have been changes in the past in which the society readily admits to but the bottom line is that this is the channel jehovah has chosen...remember the vision of his chariot...those wheels could change any direction on a dime...it is our responsibility to move with that chariot and keep up otherwise we will be left behind with nothing better to do than finding fault with this precious organization!.
i would like to know more about the chariot wheels too....
It is no wonder that the WTS discourages futher education, or thinking for oneself.
here in quebec, walmart decided to close a walmart store because the 190 employees wanted to become unionized.
walmart said that they weren't making money at that store, and that's why they are closing.
we all know that the real reason why walmart wants to close is because the employees want to be unionized.. in this day and age, do you think that walmart is right, or the employees?.
I don't care in this case. I do not like Wal-Mart, and I hate unions. So, either way, it just don't matter.
absolutely shocking.......... .
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/n/newborn_tossed?site=inins§ion=us&template=default.
why would anyone want to throw away a beautiful baby out of the window of a car is beyond me!.
Absolutely disgusting behavior!
Whomever did this needs to be sterilized, and locked up for a very long time. They have no value of life, and care more about themselves than anything else.
That state has a no questions asked policy, for giving up a new born to the police, or firefighters, etc. All it took was facing them, handing the kid over, and then go away.
Put the person responsible in jail, and I don't give a shit what happens to them inside.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050211/ap_en_mu/michael_jackson_45
by tim molloy, associated press writer
los angeles - actor corey feldman (news), who says in an interview airing this week that michael jackson (news) showed him nude pictures when feldman was in his early teens, was subpoenaed by prosecutors in the singer's molestation case, the actor's manager said thursday.
Unless we were there, I think it is difficult for anyone to say with a certainty that anything happened, whether good or bad.
I have met Corey Feldman, and though I think he likes the spotlight, I don't think he is trying one way or another to put himself out there on this particular case.
having read both of ray franz' books and more recently 'the gentile times reconsidered' by c. o jonsson you'd be forgiven for believing that losing the 607 b.c.e date for the destruction of jerusalem would end in disaster for the society.
sorry but i just don't think so.. i'm sure many of the long-time witnesses who know the history of the society would truly have problems but most of the dubs just don't care!
think about it, remember all those dubs you used to hang out with.
I think the dates that the WTS talks about go over 99% of everyones head anyways, so it just doesn't matter what the WTS says, the rank and file will follow like little puppies, and pee on themselves with all the new light.
