Posts by freedom96

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No sunday school for witnesses

by freedom96 in

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i have had the opportunity to visit a few non-denominational churches since i have left the witnesses.

i have talked to people who attend other ones, and obviously find great differences between those and witnesses.. a huge mistake, among many of course, in my opinion, is that there is no programs for kids.. an infant is expected to make all the meetings.

a toddler is expected to go, and sit still.

freedom96

I have had the opportunity to visit a few non-denominational churches since I have left the witnesses. I have talked to people who attend other ones, and obviously find great differences between those and witnesses.

A huge mistake, among many of course, in my opinion, is that there is no programs for kids.

An infant is expected to make all the meetings. A toddler is expected to go, and sit still. A few more years, and the child is expected to follow along on subjects that make our adult eyes glaze over. Talks are given talking about diciplining your children so they sit still and pay attention. For God's sake, it is bad enough when we had to go ourselves, let alone the kids pay attention. And for me, I was there as a kid, then grown up with a kid.

Why doesn't the WTS have programs for kids?

For example, this last church I went to had the following:

There was a regular service, with a live band at the beginning, and then about a 45 minute interesting sermon. Anyone is welcome, regardless of age.

At the same facility, were seperate classrooms for the following 1st and 2nd grade, 3rd and 4th, 5th and 6th, 7th and 8th, and high school. All were designed for that specific age group. All were religious based games or discussions, depending of course on age. All were interesting, and all were very productive in their results.

What on earth is wrong with some program like that?

There was even more activities for the youth. Sleep overs, camps, trips, dances, social events. All sponsered and run by the church. It became a encouraging event, for all ages.

I don't care what the WTS does, for I believe their doctrines to be wrong. But for those still in, would not that not make a better enviorment? It would have made life as a kid, and those who have kids, much more enjoyable. The fact is, that the WTS does absolutely nothing to encourage kids, or have programs. No youth ministries, no nothing.

Why must they be sooooooo different that they can't see what could help them out? I just feel bad for those who are currently going through it, and those of us who had to endure.

When we really think about it, the WTS program as a whole, is not conducive to creating a loving enviorment, where kids and parents are happy, and learning, and having fun at the same time. When one goes to the Kingdom Hall, everyone participates in the same mind dulling crap every time, over and over and over and over and over.

If they wanted to keep their numbers up, they ought to change the way they do things. But they are so stubborn, and lose numbers because of the way they are.

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PAY RAISE!

by Yerusalyim in

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just wanted to drop in and say hello and let ya'll know i haven't fallen off the face of the earth.

big news, on november 1st i will be promoted to the rank of sergeant first class.

this is a pay raise of over $300.00 a month (just in time for christmas) praise god!

freedom96

Congrats, and thank you for helping defend our great country.

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I Need Help Please!!!

by CW02 in

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i'm a 24yr old non-witness who has been dating a 23yr old witness.

we met through a mutual friend.

when i met him i thought he was sweet and kind and the kind of guy i could see myself with for the rest of my life.

freedom96

Ditto to many of the already listed posts. What you need in a relationship is time to grow and know one another. This is a new relationship, and to have this whole witness deal thrown in, just creates a huge mess, bigger than you can imagine.

Just becoming a witness is not the same as switching other religions out there. To go from one church to another out there is nothing in comparison to the witnesses.

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LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE IN CA

by LDH in

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yep i know it's all caps.. tomorrow< oct 21, is the last day to register to vote in the upcoming elections (for the central valley).

if you're not sure how to register to vote, call your county clerk or registrar of voter's office.. please vote.

if you've never voted before you will feel like a heathen apostate, a great feeling.. by the way, i hope non of you are planning on voting for a certain republican here in the central valley.

freedom96

I am frustrated this time with the elections for governor. I had high hopes for Simon, but he seems to be a baffoon like so many others. I was really hoping for someone better than Davis. I feel though we will be seeing him for another 4 years. Maybe by then Arnold will run. This year, we just can't win.

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I married a stranger, did you?

by kenpodragon in

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in my current life i know a lot of people who live together.

some of them might have done this because they do not like marriage, and others have done this as a step towards getting married.

in all, in my post-witness life i find that i have no problem with either view.

freedom96

Great story Kenpo.

I too married a "stranger". We had only known each other for a few months, but I tell you, this is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I truly could not imagine being with someone more caring and loving, and supportive as my wife.

Though I know that no one is perfect, she absolutely is perfect for me. No extremes, great humor, no grudges, etc. Everyone who meets her thinks she is just wonderful.

Funny how life turns out. I was married to another witness, quite young, and that turned out to be disasterous. She still is a witness by name, and her actions at the meetings. Real life though is another matter. Really gives witnesses a bad name.

After that divorce, sometime later, I was planning on getting married to another witness, though I was not active. Had that worked out, unfortunately I would probably still be involved to some degree.

But I found another witness who had faded away like I did. She will never go back, and together we can talk about and understand what it was like to be involved. She understands, and that I think helps out a lot.

I loved how your wife reacted. I bet that was a relief. And to be able to go on with your lives, that is great.

Congrats on your soon to be born child.

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How Are You Percieved By People???

by minimus in

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do you think that you are easy to get along with?

are you judgemental?

are you positive?

freedom96

People perceive me to be loyal, faithful to my friends and family, will do anything for them. Hard worker, want the most out of life, non judgemental.

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I'm out of this apostate site...

by ScoobySnax in

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nahhhh..................not really, reading here is far too much fun!....inactive?....yes.

a troll?....if you say so.......a twat?.....sometimes..........please feed me i'm hungry.. lol.

come on forum brothers and sisters this site goes round and around in circles, there's only so many times you can talk about "your worst meeting" "kingdom melodies i hate that i can replace rude words too" "bill bowen is worse/better than ray" " the circa 1949 wt says...." "i'm outta the borg(tm)" "your favourite witness?.....i hated them all" and my favourite..."hello newbie, you're amongst friends here, we look forward to your posts", but don't you dare, ever ever step out of line and not tow the ex line here, after all we're the enlightened ones now and we'll trash you without any understanding/concern"........this site has become a cult in itself, agreement at the kh is called brainwashing, agreement here is applauded, unless you disagree (no dissention in the ranks allowed) and on and on...........quit the judgement of others you say you struggled hard to escape from and hated, we're all humans looking at the end of the day for answers.

freedom96

I think this is a great site for those who want to know what is going on, get new ideas, and make new friends. No one is going to try to kick someone out or jump on someone for a disagreement over a subject.

What a refreshing place to come, where one is not judged.

Not to say though, if someone is being a complete ass, then they should expect the same result as if they were behaving that way anywhere else.

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How much wealth have the organisation aquired?

by haujobbz in

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i was just wondering this because when i was jw we told not to store treasures on the earth, also i remember the jws critisizing other religious organisations for massing up wealth but at sametime they were doing the same thing.. also im trying to imagine now much they have aquired in wealth, what if say the jw religion collapsed what would happen to all wealth they have aquired, whos pocket would it go into.. they must make a fortune in contributions also remembering that bethel members vitually work for free,most jw buildings or assemblys are built for virtually nothing,its just like slave labour "oh god"

freedom96

They own very valuable real estate in New York, and other places in New England. They own the Kingdom Halls, assembly halls, who knows how much in stocks and investments, and cash flow from donations.

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Pay Attention:Appealing an appeal?

by Blueblades in

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unit 5c,page127.when the disfellowshipping is upheld by the appeal committee,there is no further right to appeal.however,if an individual persists in believing a serious error in judgment has occurred, the appeal committee should inform him that he may submit his allegations in writing to the appeal committee within seven days for transmittal to the branch office.the appeal committee will include this statement along with the information being sent to the branch office.

?question:how many are aware that you can appeal an appeal?and dosen't it say ,"there is no further right to appeal.

"then dosen't it say ,'if you are persistent, however,you can appeal an appeal ".notice the second appeal is called an allegation.an assertion made without proof.and then the second appeal which is called an allegation is now called a statement that is being sent to the branch office.hence,the individual has to present evidence that six men have seriously erred in judgment before how many men in position at the branch office without them ever seeing this individual before them personally.and has not the decision already been bound in heaven?

freedom96

All this df'ing, da'ing is tough......... it is too bad that the WTS has to be the way they are. Friends should be friends, regardless. Putting this religion in the way is just not the way Jesus would have acted, IMO.

Maybe one day they will let up, or better yet, most of our friends leave, or just don't care, and talk to whom they want.

What is sad, is that most of our friends would not listen after the fact. The best way is to tell them beforehand. Then they can think what they want.

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Be careful you don't catch it

by kenpodragon in

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i have several little nieces and nephews in my life.

in doing so i have watched them grow from being these little babies, to these children that run all over my house when they visit.

they are a lot of fun, but some of them have the most nasty of habits.

freedom96

Kenpo, I have been so careful about the women being pregnant that I actually have not said a word until they do, or nearly before they have the kid. Tough one, best to stay clear of it.