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September 2006 KM Quote 1893 Zion's Watch Tower

by rassillon in

the article "witnessing from house to house", on page 8, in the first paragraph it quotes the july 1, 1893 zions watch tower as follows.

"those experienced in the various ways of spreading the truth will agree that the house to house canvass with millenial dawn is, in the present time, by far the most effective way of preaching the truth.".

i have bought the cds of reprint scans.

rassillon

You guys (and girls) are awesome!

Thanks so much!

I think they should re-word the quote to something like this.

"Those who were witnessing from house to house over a 110 years ago when things were very different, before planes, most autos, the internet, tv, radio, and just about anything else you take for granted, Oh yeah, and by the way they are all dead now. Well anyway they think that house to house distribution of liturature is the best way of spreading our own brand of Truth. Although we don't charge for liturature and you don't get a cut anymore."

-r

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September 2006 KM Quote 1893 Zion's Watch Tower

by rassillon in

the article "witnessing from house to house", on page 8, in the first paragraph it quotes the july 1, 1893 zions watch tower as follows.

"those experienced in the various ways of spreading the truth will agree that the house to house canvass with millenial dawn is, in the present time, by far the most effective way of preaching the truth.".

i have bought the cds of reprint scans.

rassillon

The article "Witnessing From House to House", on page 8, in the first paragraph it quotes the July 1, 1893 Zions Watch Tower as follows

"Those experienced in the various ways of spreading the Truth will agree that the house to house canvass with MILLENIAL DAWN is, in the present time, by far the most effective way of preaching the Truth."

I have bought the CDs of reprint scans. I have searched, printed and read the July 1, 1893 ZWT. I have been unable to locate this quote.

Can someone confirm if this is a screw-up or if I am loosing my mind. I know this is minor but I would like to know.

Thanks in advance.

-r

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A Warning to Bush and Blair!

by Gill in

my understanding is that both bush and blair are 'christians' and the worst kind as well, the ones who claim to be practicing christians.. one day, like all of us they will die.

they expect to meet their maker, god and expect to give an accounting.. what can they say to redeem themselves?.

by their actions and more importantly 'inactions' as of late, they may hear the unfortunate words: 'you're going down!'.

rassillon

jayhawk1 Said:

Well, if any in the Bush Admin. is going to hell, they will go to hell for destroying Iraq because of the WMD that they knew Iraq didn't have. Thousands of innocent people died because of their lies.

http://www.bizzyblog.com/?p=760

Gill Said:

jayhawk1 - what is incredible about Iraq, apart from the fact that they knew there were no weapons of mass destructions, is that millions of ordinary people said 'NO' to the war. They didn't listen to anyone. You can only stand and look at Iraq now, in disbelief. Millions have died under the war imposed by Bush and Blair and are yet to die, a fraction of the blood shed and crimes by the Sadam regime. Yet we know that Sadam will be executed when found guilty. How strange!

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

1,000,000 - 48,046 = 951,954

WOW!

-r

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Friendship gone, cause of questions...

by Matt_fs in

well i wont go into huge detail, but i had a friend of mine that was 16 years older than me, really close friend and actually i considered him a brother.

i went to meetings and book studies with him for many many years and he wanted me to become a jw.

my family being christian was mad that i was attending meetings and learning their doctrine.

rassillon

I would say that you thought witnesses were involved in a "life saving work".

Is he no longer concerned about saving your life?

Is he only willing to witness to ones who have no questions and accepting anything he says without research?

Is that how Jesus would handle it?

The Boreans were commended for examining what they were told before accepting it.

Does he expect less of you?

If he has the TRUTH, he would be blood guilty not to do his utmost to convince you of the same!

-r

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Why has Scotland got no Assembly Hall?

by slimboyfat in

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is it 'cos we is black?

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slim.

rassillon

Maybe it is because all the Scottish JW's spend their money on scotch wisky instead of donating it to the WT.

MMMM, I know I would. Especially Talisker, this stuff is the bomb diggy.

YO!

14

Admit it

by RR in

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c'mon ... some of you really miss those watchtower hoagies!

don't you get a craving for them in the middle of the night?.

rr.

rassillon

Ok, you got me.

Nothing like eatin' a hogie and checking out the sisters, sippin' on a shasta!

OH! and cheese danish for desert. <---LOL I meant (dessert)

-r

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Revelation 20 Question - Nark, Leolaia, Alan, Blondie, Drew, Others

by rassillon in

i have been reading the bible with a new perspective for some time, i guess i identify with drew s from a lot of his comments sound like what i think.

i have been thinking about what i read without the wt influence and i would like to get ya'll's input on this scripture.. .

revelation 20 1-6. to me it seems to indicate that satan will be bound "first" then the ressurection of those to rule with christ for a thousand years.. also.

rassillon

Thanks for everyones comments,

For those who, to me, alluded that I was holding to WT teaching, let me assure I am not.

I have no faith in them nor their interpretation anymore.

I doubt they could even predict the outcome of a one ball lottery!

If in fact the book of Revelation does have any prophetic value I doubt anyone is going to understand it until after it has happened.

I don't think it is a vehicle for which to predict "the time of the end", when it starts, etc...

I just like reading the bible without "HAVING" to understand it a certain way and letting it speak for its self.

Sometime I try to read it from different perspectives such as, "I believe it is literal", "I believe it is fantasy", "I believe it is all happening now"

I am sure many of you have advanced far beyond me in my examination but thanks for indulging me!!

LEOLAIA - A special thanks to you for your input, your research is invaluable!, maybe you should have a 1 900 bible help line, you could charge 10 denari a minute!

cheers everyone and thanks again.

-r

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Revelation 20 Question - Nark, Leolaia, Alan, Blondie, Drew, Others

by rassillon in

i have been reading the bible with a new perspective for some time, i guess i identify with drew s from a lot of his comments sound like what i think.

i have been thinking about what i read without the wt influence and i would like to get ya'll's input on this scripture.. .

revelation 20 1-6. to me it seems to indicate that satan will be bound "first" then the ressurection of those to rule with christ for a thousand years.. also.

rassillon

Hello all,

I have been reading the bible with a new perspective for some time, I guess I identify with Drew S from a lot of his comments sound like what I think. I have been thinking about what I read without the WT influence and I would like to get ya'll's input on this scripture.

Revelation 20 1-6

To me it seems to indicate that Satan will be bound "first" THEN the ressurection of those to rule with Christ for a thousand years.

ALSO

It seems to indicate that those that rule will be ones actually killed for their beliefs.

Now these thoughts are not comprehensive of the bible as a whole but I thought I would get your thoughts on this.

Thanks,

-r

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How many of you are still "active Witnesses"?

by exwitless in

i'm curious about some of you who post here and say that you attend jw meetings regularly.

what motivates you to post here, and does anyone in your congregation have any clue you're doing that?

rassillon

Me is still "active" Me still have wife in org. Me no go in fs for this many 3 (months) Me still turn in time. Me sick of org but me love wife. Me go now. -Mongo just pawn in game of life.

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A conversation with my Mom.

by rassillon in

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i had an interesting conversation with my mother.

i have spoken to her and my dad about the position i have taken before.

my parents are not like many witnesses that i have heard about from many of you.

rassillon

I had an interesting conversation with my mother. I have spoken to her and my dad about the position I have taken before. My parents are not like many witnesses that I have heard about from many of you. This is one of the things that made it hard for me to believe many of the horror stories which I have read. My parents still talk with my brother who has been DFd 3 times and never did the whole your going to die at the big A with my other brothers who never did anything about the so called "truth". My dad went worldly for many years when I was young but got straight when I was about 13/14 (20 years now) and most of my spiritual instruction came from my mom who is a studyaholic and quite handy with the bible.

Anyway, my parents allow me to express my concerns without branding me an apostate and are very reasonable, infact they express their love and concern over anything else since I have made my views known. But when talking to my mom the other day I tried to explain to her how I got to my current state of thinking. As I explained she listened and then when I got to the explaination about 607-587-1914-1918-1919, she told me that, that was not important to her ( I am paraphrasing here), I explained that it was of utmost importance because it is the reason that the WT claims authority. I said if they really had authority from GOD that I would accept the other things but if they didn't there was no reason for me to accept their pecuilar teachings.

Well, after a long nice conversation with her she agreed that she understood "why" I had my concerns but the reasons "607 etal" were not really important to her.

I just thought that was interesting.

As a side note I am not really interested in extracating my parents from the org. since they are old and it works for them. They are active in the ministry and it gives the something to do and people to talk to. They do not suffer from being oppressed or anything and are just really nice (to everyone but each other that is, lol) seeing old people argue is funny.

This was a really long conversation and I reasoned many different ways, so please don't post "You should have said XYZ"

thought I would tell you guys since I can't tell anyone around here.

-r