Posts by dedalus

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Nov. 8 Awake - Wife Beaters-Sick

by MrMoe in

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i will let you all hang who ever the heck wrote this crap.

november 8, 2001 awake page 9: some battered women may need to seek assistance from the authorities.

at times, a point of crisis-such as intervention of the police-can cause an abusive man to see the seriousness of the action.. page 12: should the battered wife leave her husband?

dedalus

5. The couple are not married, they cohabit.

Grammatically incorrect. "Couple" is a singular noun, even though it refers to more than one individual. Therefore, it should be, "The couple is not married ..." Also, the pronoun "they," which is plural, refers back to the same singular noun.

The boys in writing need a copy of The Elements of Style, it seems.

Grammar aside, this is a freaking ridiculous "risk indicator." Everything I've known about domestic violence suggests to me that it settles in after marriage.

Dedalus

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What just happended?????

by SarahT in

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today as i was trying to put my baby down for a nap, he was cranky and crying and i was doing my best to confort him (comfort=nursing him)the doorbell rang several times and knocking like there was a fire.

so i go to see who it was, guess what?

it was jw, he was so nice and pleasent looking, he proceeded to tell me how the world in all religions were uniting, well in the bedroom my baby is crying, i also was un-prepared to speak to him (any other time i always say i cant wait till one comes to my door so i can speak) and guess what i froze, i told him i was an athiest (thought that would get me off the hook) finally i had to tell him thanks but no thanks.

dedalus

What happened? You were busy, you were interrupted, and you didn't respond the way you might have if you'd had five minutes and a cup of coffee with which to mull things over!

Go easy on yourself!

Oh, and there's nothing shameful about being an atheist; if God is as understanding as you say he is, he's probably an atheist himself.

Dedalus

P.S. Congrats on the baby!

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How would you respond?

by mole in

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i have been "inactive" for the past 12 years.

with the recent events, my mom decides to send me this letter as she can not carry on a dialog about things that normal families talk about.

i know she thinks she is looking out for her son's best interests for i used to feel as she does about anyone who leaves da "troot.

dedalus

Mole,

I've been writing letters to my father for months, debating in detail points of contention, pleading in every voice I can to invoke my simple cause: that he's my father and I'm his son, simple as that. To no avail.

So my recommendation to you is this: respond with a letter telling your mum hello, that you miss her, that the girls miss her, that you love her. Include some nonreligious anecdotes from your life. Share a fond nonreligious memory. And ignore every stupid thing she just wrote to you, realizing that she can't help it. Act like she never said anything about "critical times" and "spiritual strength," knowing that she meant well in her own misguided way.

She'll hold onto the hope that her words are secretly growing in your brain, and meanwhile, you just may not exacerbate the situation.

Dedalus

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Watch out for Sep 22- FBI says more attacks planne

by bboyneko in

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they also are increasingly persuaded as a result of intelligence intercepts, witness interviews and evidence gathered in hijackers cars and homes that a second wave of violence was planned by collaborators.

they said sept. 22 has emerged as an important date in the evidence but declined to be more specific, the associated press reported.

dedalus

A URL link, please?

Dedalus

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"Mire of atheism..."

by Julie in

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:i welcome those of your quality of character and refusal to sink into the mire of atheism or deep cynicism, .

i found these words to be so interesting.

i have seen posts (albeit few) that discuss the bible and whether or not it is of god.

dedalus

All of you godless lost souls,

God is love, that's how we know he exists. Only the blind and arrogant who are too wise in their own understanding don't understand that. And God loves all of his children, even the ones he has to kill. That may be hard to understand but unless you do God's going to kill you too. I wouldn't want to be anything but a Christian because then you're saved, or you have the best odds anyway, plus then you're always right without having to study geology and crap like that, and being right is a really good feeling. Only don't be too proud because then God might kill you because he loves you.

Dedalus, wearing his irony cap today

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Goodbye, and Thanks For All the Fish......

by Prisca in

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dear all,.

it is with much regret that i have decided to leave jw.com.

it is not a decision i have made lightly, in fact i had been thinking about it for many weeks now.. i am leaving because i cannot be a part of a forum that condones abuse and deliberate offensiveness towards other posters.

dedalus

Esmerelda wrote:

There are people whose posts I read, others who could call me every vile name in the book and I couldn't care less.

Hey, who's calling you every vile name in the book, sis? [dedalus rolls up his shirt sleeves and glares around menacingly ...] Anyone who bothers you has to answer to me!

You're the best, Es, and I mean it.

Prisca,

Don't go. Take a sabbatical. Come back and visit if you feel like it.

Dedalus

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an essay for Farkel

by teejay in

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last fall, my second year of college english was based on the movies instead of classic literature.

the textbook dealt with cinematic elements (lighting, sound, camera position, etc) as the tools filmmakers use to tell their story beyond mere dialog.

the assignments involved watching clips of film, determining what the filmmaker was saying by his use of those elements, then writing full-bodied essays based on our assessments.. one of the film clips we saw was from dead poet's society.

dedalus

I didn't know you were there or that I needed to meet YOUR requirements. I'd ask you to 'show me yours,' but I don't really care about comments from the peanut gallery... folks like you who sit on the sidelines and can only muster criticism for the participants. People who do what you've done here are sad.

Odd remark from one who's criticized one of the best essayists on this board.

By the way, I'm a certified writing tutor and a teaching fellow in the English department of a top-tier university. I get paid to evaluate student writing all the time. And the truth is, your essay was riddled with mite-size grammatical mistakes, insipid cliches, and tedious redundancy. Reading it was akin to being bitten by the same mosquito over and over again. Your professor probably liked it, but only because you demonstrated some understanding of what he already said in class. The essay itself has little inherent merit.

It's not that you're a terrible writer. It's just that there's no compelling reason to have read this essay; posting it wasn't even clever, as you had hoped.

Dedalus

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God not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it

by Kent in

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god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .

i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.

god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!

dedalus

Okay, I'm going to try really hard to understand Rex's explanation for God's ordering the murder of children. I assume that Rex agrees that this is an accurate statement: God ordered that infants be killed, not a single one spared. Am I wrong, Rex? Tell me.

Now, let's see how Rex's explanation goes:

As usual, you seem NOT to understand that God determines how long each one of us live. We are predestined to our limited time and have only enough free will to choose eternal life or eternal damnation.

Okay, let's say we have free will. I understand what free will means. It means that, even if God has stamped an expiration date on my forehead, I am responsible for the choices I make, and I make them of my own volition. Okay. But what about infants? What choices had they made, and what does this have to do with God's ordering them killed? Are you implying that God killed the babies because they had abused their free will? If not, then what's the point of this free will jabber?

If I ordered my own infant to death, I'm sure you'd think I was pure evil, Rex. So why is it okay when God does it? And how is free will involved in your answer?

We all will die on the day that God has determined.

Uh-huh. So, God had these infants born, which is a miraculous testament to the greatness of his creative powers, only to determine that they must immediately die? Why? And why should that kind of insanity inspire me to worship him?

Is that so hard to get through your alcohol & drug addled brain?

Well, I don't know about Kent, but I'm dead sober. I'm beginning to think that I might need a few drinks before your explanation begins to make sense, Rex.

You're taking what many consider to be Hebrew apologetics over their own sins and making it apply to all Christians. Even if the passages ARE literal it is within divine providence to judge creation!

"It is within divine providence to judge creation." Um, this means that whatever God does is good, because he has "divine providence," which just a fancier way of saying that whatever God does is good. This means that morality is utterly subjective to the will of God. Morality is whatever God says it is. Morality is utterly meaningless and when we talk about virtue and goodness and honor, we are just farting into the wind, because malice and hatred and wickedness are just as good, if God says they are.

Next, you make the same JW error over and over, ignoring the fact that the soul is immortal and we suffer only a physical death.

Is it okay to stab a person in the eye if you're sure you can restore his sight? I'm not so sure, Rex. Plus, do you really think those infants are now off eating ice cream somewhere in heaven (or whatever)? Why would God reward someone he ordered killed? Why would he preserve in spirit a nation he was bent on destorying on earth?

Some people are better off dead, are they not, Kent baby?

Are infants better off dead?

Lastly, you keep telling us the Bible is a myth and if that is the case, why do YOU take it literal?

Kent's reasons for asking the question have nothing to do with the actual answer to the question.

So tell me, Rex, have I misunderstood you, or misrepresented you, and if so, where? Can you clear things up at all?

Dedalus

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IT'S [going to be] A GIRL!

by dedalus in

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the ultrasound results are in: foxy and i are going to be having a baby girl, sometime around the end of january!

yippie!.

i'm just realizing, though, that i know nothing about girls, having grown up with three brothers.

dedalus

Thanks everyone!

One year to go before me & Mr. O start doing the BD (baby dance)... I'm so glad for you both.

LOL! Good luck! Of course, the "baby dance" is a lot of fun even when you're not trying to have a baby! Additionally, it's absolutely amazingly fun even after you've already conceived!

Thanks for the insight, Princess and Essie! Girls are more expensive ... I hadn't realized that. Uh-oh. She'll be worth it, though, I'm sure.

Last night I stayed awake thinking about all of the things I'll have to teach her about and protect her from: boys, pollution, boys, bad teachers, boys, traffic, boys, drugs, boys, smoking, boys, alcohol, boys, strangers, and boys. More than any of that, though, I want her to be a strong woman -- self-assured, confident, intelligent, etc. I suppose every parent wants that ...

Been having odd dreams about my father and the sort of parent he was. I guess that's normal too.

Boy, I hope I don't mess this up!

Dedalus

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God not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it

by Kent in

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god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .

i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.

god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!

dedalus

Of course, you're completely wrong again, Kent, because you don't know how to read the Bible properly. Sure, it says there that God ordered the killing of infants, but that doesn't mean he isn't a God of Love. He is a God of Love! A God who loves to kill babies, sure, but you're missing the point and that's why God's going to kill you too, Kent! He's going to dance around your bloody carcass and so am I! Hey, I'm only telling you this because I love you.

Dedalus