I hate the story where Jesus curses the tree for not bearing fruit out of season. Pretty dumb, Jesus.
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Most hated Bible stories....
by PopeOfEruke inyears ago, i had a pet-hate bible story, and it was this one story that actually started me on the path to freedom from the borg-org.. it was the story of lot when he was living in sodom and the 2 angels visited (dressed like men of course).
and the crowd of sodomites were yelling "send out the visitors so we can bonk them senseless".
remember?.
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Average age of apostates survey.
by sleepy ini thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.
1.age you left the watchtower.
(or age you found out it was wrong).
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dedalus
1) Left at 17. Returned at 19. Left again at 25 -- inactive since and forevermore.
2) Dunked at 13.
3) Da Toof was inculcated in me since I was two.
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What Are The 3 Worst Things in Your Life
by teenyuck insince we are listing the best 3 things in life, i thought it would be interesting to list 3 things that you did and regret or things that are/were the worst in your life.
1. lack of friends growing up a jw; there just were not any.
no one liked jw's.
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Hard to think of anything!
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I am a daddy!
by dedalus inmy daughter was born at 9:05am tuesday morning.
she's a skinny little thing, 7 pounds 5 ounces, with a shock of black hair, her father's chin, her mother's eyes, and a fetish for sucking on fingertips that neither of us recognize in ourselves.
i'll post pictures when i have them up somewhere ... meanwhile, foxy and i are trying to catch as much sleep as possible, which is precious little sleep at all.
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My daughter was born at 9:05am Tuesday morning. She's a skinny little thing, 7 pounds 5 ounces, with a shock of black hair, her father's chin, her mother's eyes, and a fetish for sucking on fingertips that neither of us recognize in ourselves.
I'll post pictures when I have them up somewhere ... meanwhile, Foxy and I are trying to catch as much sleep as possible, which is precious little sleep at all. But it is so, so worth it ...
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Well, I'm DA'd Now! :)
by rem inmy judicial meeting took place on monday night.
i was a bit annoyed because the meeting centered on my private beliefs - things that i've already spoken to the elders about in the past many times before.
i don't think i handled myself as well as i wanted to, but i guess i did ok under the circumstances.
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dedalus
Hi REM!
I just e-mailed you, and now I've read this ... sorry you feel it didn't go as well as you wished, but I'm certain you aren't giving yourself enough credit. I would like to hear the tape, at some point, if you'd like to e-mail it to me.
I was baptized on December 17, 1988 at the tender age of 13, and I was DA'd on January 28, 2002 at 26 years of age.
Wow. I was baptized when I was 13, too, but I can't remember the date, have never been able to remember the date, having considered it unimportant in many ways.I do find a certain charm in the coincidence that, on the first day of your disassociation, my daughter was born. A new phase for both of us, eh?
Good luck, my friend, and keep your chin up at the wedding. Be prepared for the lore that will soon surround the announcement of your departure from the club -- as dubs, we were nothing, but as apostates, we are legends. Or something like that, anyway!
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Witnesses Just Tried to Have Me Arrested!!!!
by Reborn2002 inwell, i just got home and im piping madd.. im laughing about it as well though because i outsmarted them at their own game and got a rant off my chest.. heres what happened.
an acquaintance i used to go to the hall with.. who is also 3 years younger than me asked me for money about 6 months ago.. at the time, i loaned him $50 to get the tires on his car fixed.
in that time period, not only did he move out of his parents house to an undisclosed location because he decided to stop going to the kh.. but i also da myself in that time frame.. due to the fact he moved out, i havent been able to reach him.. i tried calling his parents home to discover his current location or at least to tell them if he contacts them, to be sure to have him reach me because he owes me money.. no response.
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dedalus
Well, I guess I'm the asshole. Oh well. Reborn's story just sounded to me like one of those long-winded self-important opening statements you hear on crappy daytime court-tv shows. Also, I do think that Reborn was in some ways antagonizing this kid's parents.
But, I'm just not invested in this enough to get too upset by anything. If Reborn thinks I'm an asshole, that's cool. It's not like I was aiming to give him warm fuzzies or anything. I don't dig this particular kind of apostate, is all, based on what I know of him so far. Course, that could always change ...
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New Ministry School book: Sound Arguments
by Moxy inthought some of you might get a kick out of this:.
sound arguments given.
when you make a statement, your listeners are fully justified in asking: "why is this true?
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dedalus
ROTFLOL!
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The Problem of Evil --- A Way Out
by LoneWolf inthe problem of evil ---.
a gift .
there are many who feel that jehovah is so high and dignified that it would be insulting on our part to assume that we could give him anything other than our unquestioning obedience.
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dedalus
We are still trying to determine what is right and wrong ourselves today, with the obvious results.
If it is true that we don't know right from wrong, as you pretty clearly suggest here, then Jehovah was lying when he said, "Now that the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, he must not be allowed to stretch out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." Right?
This seems pretty obvious to me, and I don't even need a lame car analogy to understand it. As far as this goes --
If you go to a Cadillac dealer and buy a brand new Caddy, you're also going to get an instruction manual detailing its proper maintenance and usage.
Suffice to say, by the terms of your analogy, it was as if Jehovah closed all of the Jiffy Lubes and gas stations and auto repair shops in the universe, making it impossible to maintain any car properly, under any circumstances. Of course, even if you only drive your Caddy under the best of circumstances, following every instruction in the manual, it will still die someday.Dedalus
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Witnesses Just Tried to Have Me Arrested!!!!
by Reborn2002 inwell, i just got home and im piping madd.. im laughing about it as well though because i outsmarted them at their own game and got a rant off my chest.. heres what happened.
an acquaintance i used to go to the hall with.. who is also 3 years younger than me asked me for money about 6 months ago.. at the time, i loaned him $50 to get the tires on his car fixed.
in that time period, not only did he move out of his parents house to an undisclosed location because he decided to stop going to the kh.. but i also da myself in that time frame.. due to the fact he moved out, i havent been able to reach him.. i tried calling his parents home to discover his current location or at least to tell them if he contacts them, to be sure to have him reach me because he owes me money.. no response.
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dedalus
As for forgiving a debt, to forgive one first needs to be asked to be forgiven.
Um, no. I've forgiven people for things without being asked. So did that guy Jesus, right? Isn't that the big bad "Christian" thing to do, anyway?
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Witnesses Just Tried to Have Me Arrested!!!!
by Reborn2002 inwell, i just got home and im piping madd.. im laughing about it as well though because i outsmarted them at their own game and got a rant off my chest.. heres what happened.
an acquaintance i used to go to the hall with.. who is also 3 years younger than me asked me for money about 6 months ago.. at the time, i loaned him $50 to get the tires on his car fixed.
in that time period, not only did he move out of his parents house to an undisclosed location because he decided to stop going to the kh.. but i also da myself in that time frame.. due to the fact he moved out, i havent been able to reach him.. i tried calling his parents home to discover his current location or at least to tell them if he contacts them, to be sure to have him reach me because he owes me money.. no response.
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The drama you're creating over this miserable 50 dollars is out of proportion to the supposed wrong you've been done. Quit whining, and quit sitting in people's driveways writing notes when a stamp is only 34 cents. Most of all, quit acting like you're being persecuted. I hate to think that this is where we draw the battle lines after leaving the organization, around petty disputes of the sort seen on Judge Judy reruns.
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