Posts by deddaisy

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My Son

by Windchaser in

i have three living children.

one i gave up for adoption, so i never hear from him.

my only daughter doesn't speak to me because she hated being a jw and hated me for forcing it on her.

These are some of the most touching posts ! Wind, yours and Aroarer's posts brought tears to my eyes. someone, I forgot who now, said that children need their parents when they're older as much as when they're younger! I have to agree. It seems we cannot appreciate the fact that our parents were only human until we live a bit of life ourselves. I too, threw it in my mom's face about dragging me to meetings when I no longer wanted to go. We fought, like a majority of teenage daughters and mothers do, only worst. I moved out of state at 18. I always loved my mom deeply, but rarelyshowed it, and we fought horribly at times. Your daughter most likely thinks about you more often than you can imagine. It sounds though, that she is just at a point of attempting to get numb. maybe you can drop her a line?

then all of a sudden it seemed like my life was a mirror image of hers

I wish I could have told her how wrong I was about her ,,,,,,,,,,, I think she knew I loved her when she died,,,,,, but ...I wish I could tell her how much I understand now,,,,,,,,,,

Lyin, my mom is gone too, and I also didn't understand a lot of what she went through until after she died. Then it seemed that my life was a mirror image of hers, and I understood alot more. I said and did some horrible things to my mom that haunt me still. And I'm often afraid that she didn't know that I truly loved her... but I really believe that they know, and I really believe that they worried about the same thing, if we knew they loved us. I'll never forget my mom making me promise her, just a few months before she died, to remember that no matter what hurtful things she had said in the past, she loved me. They were really beginning to "up" the amount of morphine she was on and she was afraid that she would forget to tell me. And I know that she wondered that herself about her own mother. And I really believe that your mom knew that you loved her, she, like my mom, may have worried that you didn't know how much she really loved you.

thank you all for the most touching posts,

peace,

christina

Edited by - deddaisy on 14 December 2002 3:49:43

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Who Are The Smartest Posters Here?

by minimus in

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besides minimus?????

?edited by - minimus on 12 december 2002 9:45:44.

deddaisy

I am going to go out and party and get some lovin instead of typing on this keyboard on a Friday Night. That makes me the smartest by FAR

HAAAAAHHHHH, Crazy, I already got some lovin, so that means that I am smarter than you. (or in a different time zone.)

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Tell about the good JWs

by Skeptic in

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most of the jws i met were sincere people.

not perfect, i have my horror stories too, but most were decent people.

i am not discounting the horrible things i hear on this forum.

deddaisy

my family actually was pretty cool in spite of being JWs. My mom didn't get baptized til I was around fourteen and she never became the cliquish little dubbie that so many become. She was rather like a free spirit, instead of a dub. One day, shortly after she was baptized, we went shopping and stopped for lunch. A skinny, skinny, dirty, weirdo (I thought) kid was sitting on the sidewalk outside of the restaurant, looking kind of lost. He asked my mom if she could spare some change, he claimed he wanted to make a phone call. I was only 14 and quite embarrassed that my mom carried on a conversation with this guy, let alone when she offered to buy him lunch ! I almost died ! (you know how it is when you're 14, you're like "oh god, I hope noone sees me!") He didn't have any shoes to go into the restaurant and of course she would not just give him the money, she wanted to see him eat it! So she got some flip-flops that she had in the back of the car and he put those on and ate lunch with us! I was dying by this time, but of course it didn't end there, my mom found out he had run away, called his mom out of state, drove him to the bus station and paid for his ticket home! she told me later, after I told her she was nuts, that she had done what she hoped someone else would do for me if I ever ended up sitting on a sidewalk with no shoes.

she was definitely one of the "good" witnesses. (sigh, she passed away a couple years ago.)

Then there are the other witnesses like the sweet "sister" that had nothing better to do than tell her elder husband that my mom should be "talked" to regarding wearing torn jeans with a PEACE SYMBOL embroidered on the ass! LOL, she was the type that would've handed the runaway a Watchtower and counted it on her timesheet !

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Hospice Care...

by Golden Girl in

well i called the insurance company today to see if we are covered for hospice on hubby.

they said no!..i almost fainted.

i talked with them a while and asked what would be covered.

deddaisy

What really hurts is all those that would just take the first answer as gospel!

That is really disheartening that the insurance service reps aren't better informed. Like you said, alot of people will take the first answer as gospel and if they're in a financial bind, which the majority of people are by the time they need Hospice, they just go without, or try and pay out of pocket ! Very sad. I also had Hospice (in home) for my mom when the cancer took over. Even though it was only three times a week, the nurses were absolutely awesome! They were such a help, both physically and mentally. My mom got so attached to her nurse's aid, and they also gave me enormous emotional support at a time that I thought I could just go no further ! I don't know if they're all that wonderful, but I have the feeling they are. I have the utmost respect for those who give so much to those that are dealing with the hardest part of their lives. You hang in their Snoozy !

lots of hugs,

christina

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I urge You /Theocratic Warfare

by metatron in

i strongly urge you to look at and download the document called "lying in court - theocratic warfare strategy" - over at freeminds.org.

this is a lengthy and careful analysis of the watchtower society's practice of .

deliberate lying to the public - and in courtrooms.

deddaisy

Two months after my first complaint the October magazine cited that jw children must respect the religious beliefs of non-jw parents. hmmmmm..........

aaahhhhhhhhhh ! LOL !

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I urge You /Theocratic Warfare

by metatron in

i strongly urge you to look at and download the document called "lying in court - theocratic warfare strategy" - over at freeminds.org.

this is a lengthy and careful analysis of the watchtower society's practice of .

deliberate lying to the public - and in courtrooms.

deddaisy

He even refused to read any WT quotes because they might be taken from apostate websites.

alamb,

I would think any judge worth his pay would see through this. Lawyers in court fighting the WTS, IMHO, should present the quotes which they plan to use in court to the opposing attorney way before trial. Like discovery. The WTS lawyer, at the time of trial, could not claim he didn't have time to verify the quotes were those of the WTS. The "apostate" site would be quite a lame rebuttal, which it is already. WTS literature is wonderful evidence. What are they going to say, "well we said that in our literature, but we changed our mind, lied, didn't mean it, it doesn't mean what it says, etc., etc. LOL

peace,

christina

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I urge You /Theocratic Warfare

by metatron in

i strongly urge you to look at and download the document called "lying in court - theocratic warfare strategy" - over at freeminds.org.

this is a lengthy and careful analysis of the watchtower society's practice of .

deliberate lying to the public - and in courtrooms.

deddaisy

Excellent article ! Thank you ! (and it definitely clarified something for me)

The WT Society is also not above unscrupulous ad hominem attacks, presenting wholly inaccurate evidence against the people who testify in these kinds of cases.

My brother, years ago when he was still an elder, testified in court on behalf of a JW whom was fighting his newly apostized ex-wife for custody of their daughter. He was beaming at the fact that they had been successful in taking the daughter from her mother. (In other words, at the WTS's win, for the WTS provided the lawyer.) He was so pleased, that I, not being familiar with the couple, thought the mother must've been a drug addict, boozer, or something equally as harmful that rationalized her not having custody of her child. We got into a bit of a "debate" when he told me she was none of the above. Actually, he thought she was a very decent person and had been a "good" Witness, she just began questioning the "truth" and had ultimately been df'ed for it. He almost gloated about how "she didn't have a chance against the lawyers provided by the Society. I knew he must have altered the truth in court and I was naive enough to believe, at that time, that that was one thing a Witness would never do. yea right.

Porkchop, do you suppose that Franz had an "agenda" also ? (yea, he just WANTED to be df'ed so he could write, he didn't get to write enough when he was a JW in good standing.......)

Edited by - deddaisy on 13 December 2002 17:39:40

Edited by - deddaisy on 13 December 2002 17:46:49

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More Bloody Confusion....

by hillary_step in

the british journal of hematology 2002 119 25-37 makes interesting reading in its article by judith marsh and david bevan entitled 'haematological care of jehovahs witnesses'.

nothing new, but in view of what i heard recently from an jw acquaintance working in the hematology department of a local hospital it gave me some food for thought.

the long article necessarily of a scientific nature and therefore without any noted bias makes this point regarding the alteration in policy by the wts toward those jws who take blood transfusions as a matter of choice: .

deddaisy

Pleasuredome,

my mother was right there with you, when she was admitted to the hospital, she could not explain to me something that her very life may have depended on. This is insanity. Witness relatives explained to the surgeon that she would not accept blood if it became an issue. (And the explanation is usually "because 'so and so' is one of Jehovah's Witnesses," it's not necessary to really explain why Jehovah's Witnesses won't except blood.) And my young, baptized nephews are the same. When I drive them some place they always remind me not to get into an accident if they don't have their blood cards on them. (they think I'll tell the hospital to give them blood.) When I ask them why they wouldn't accept blood, they say something like, "wouldn't make it to the new system," "Jehovah would be upset," or "you know Aunt Chrissie!"

It's like the WTS reps say one thing to the press, and another to JWs........................

edited to add: PC, isn't it funny that it had to go that far ? It seems only common sense that you could not "hear" one to find out one's attitude, along with one's side of the story, if one was dead. Good Lord, this would be like having a trial with a dead defendant. Gee that GB is on the ball.

Edited by - deddaisy on 13 December 2002 15:27:37

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What if the U.N doesn't find anything in Iraq?

by kril in

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it hit me a few days ago.

what happens if the u.n. searchs iraq and they find nothing?

i mean it's kind of scary to think what will happen to bush's job approval rating if that happens.

deddaisy

jeopardy bonus question ! For the game, who said:

you can't just seize foreign territories without paying reparations to the original inhabitants....

?????? JEOPARDY MUSIC ????????

..

WHO IS CRAZY HORSE ? ? ? ? ?

(sorry guys, I couldn't resist)

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Spanish Navy intercepts 12 scuds

by freeman in

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just heard on the news the spanish navy got a tip from us intelligence and with that info seized a north koran ship loaded with 12 scud missiles on its way to yemen, with a final destination of iraq or iran.

look like bush called it correctly, an axis of evil indeed.. .

freeman edited by - freeman on 10 december 2002 18:49:40.

deddaisy

"Under international maritime law, any country has the legal right to intercept and board any "stateless" vessel in an attempt to determine its origin!"-------------the link above

sorry, I tried to copy directly from the link, and then couldn't get rid of the @#&^* interactive picture! It screwed up my original post , I have no idea where my "edits" went too, maybe cyberspace! LOL

The point being, the North Koreans painted over the flag on the hull ! then buried missiles and missile parts under concrete, then say they were going to Yemen, Yemen had sanctions imposed on them in August for buying missile parts from North Korea and promised not to purchase anymore from N. Korea. Yemen is supposedly a hotbox of terrorist activity. Perhaps innocent ? I think something smells.