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The Star of Bethlehem, was it Satan?

by Fisherman in

the bible states that the star led the magi to herod, then to jesus.

was the star of satanic source?

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Hello Fisherman,

There's also another thread about the Bethlem Star here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/125612/1.ashx

I hope it helps!

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Judicial Committee Audio Recording

by Shaolu in

about a week ago i had my little meeting with "the bobs" (yuk yuk), and i got the whole thing digitally recorded.

it's available online, along with a written transcript here...

http://www.ichthusstudios.org/cults/jw/

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Hi Shaolu, if it's ok with you I'd like to share this with my local priest, he's a friend of mine and asked me to show him more about the JW's.

I got the idea from Mary, who as always, is a total genius

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basd on my comment to another post titled "1979," i thought that this would make an interesting separate topic.. a little history: many here are aware that i was an ms and then elder and of the anointed while a jw.

i openly professed anointing for 20-years of the 27-years i was associated with the watchtower.

since that time, i have totally and completely renounced all but one watchtower doctrine.

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Hey Mike,

Good to see you as always. I think you're referring to Jesus's comment about "it is better to tie a millstone around your neck and jump in the river than to deliberately change God's word, or use it to hurt others." I think that's what he said, I'm not sure about the exact phrasing.

A few posts back, someone mentioned how the Watchtower loves it classes and labels for people, and I could not agree more. You see, one of the ways the Watchtower has been able to maintain such a tight grip on its victims, or "congregation" all these years, while at the same time maintaining a low public profile, is that it takes so bloody long to explain it.

For example, my college is fairly small and non-competitive. I looked up Jehovah Witnesses in the library and found no books solely devoted to them, like Ray Franz, or Steve Hassan. However, there are many books det ailing the many cults in America dating back to the 1950's, and in every single book, there was one chapter devoted to the Jehovah Witnesses, and clinical definition, for lack of a better term, is that they are a cult.Keep in mind now that these are academics talking, purely from a psychological and sociological point of view. They say this so matter - of - fa c tly that it's hard for the reader to believe that they're anything other than a cult. In any case, the truth is out there, but only for people who are looking for it.

Take the United Nations situation. Notice how with all the stuff the Watchtower says about them, and all the hypocrisy, and with all of our efforts to expose their hypocrisy, the one people who have not said a word is the United Nations itself! This is because they either don't know or they don't care. I wouldn't be surprised if the UNICEF or the Catholic NGO's were sitting at the meetings across from the Watchtower representatives and laughing at them saying "look at how hypocritical they are! They think their smarter than us, and pretend we don't know what they're doing!"

Another reason they pretend to be normal is with child abuse. What happened to Mike is the common example of what happens to the average victim and their family in the Watchtower. Here is a strange and truly repulsive phenomena. The average Jehovah Witness finds the subject of pedophile just as disgusting as the rest of the world does, but for verydifferent reasons. We, along with the rest of society abhor pedophilia as a taboo, just like incest and cannibalism, for the very obvious reasons such as the detrimental effects on both the victim and their families, both physical and mental.

I know, I know, I'm just stating the obvious, but consider this. Jehovah's Witnesses do not condemn child abusebecause of how bad it is, but rather because of how bad it makes them look. Their primary concern has been, and always will be, the image of their organization, everything else is secondary. Unity at all costs.

"Strength through unity, unity through faith."

Starting to see the picture now, all you lurkers? This is an organization that almost rewards you for being a pedophile. Think about how many magazines you have seen condemning pre-marital sex, masturbation, gay people, drinking, smoking, even being in the same room with the opposite sex without a chaperone. All these things are not illegal in the real world, by the way. They're actually quite normal. But in Watchtower land they invented whole new words to describe these things such as "petting," and "pornea" and "loose conduct," any of which is grounds for "disfellowshipping," all except, you guessed it, pedophilia. You need a full confession or two eye witnesses to be found guilty, and even then, they don't ever tell the cops, just give him six months reduced privileges in the congregation and make him promise never to do it again. Isn't that weird? You can be disfellowshipped for premarital sex with a girl, except if she's underage, than it's quietly swept under the rug and never heard from again.

Think about that for a minute, then think about how many times the Watchtower has condemned pedophilia inside or outside their organization. No! All they say is "repressed memories," and "untrustworthy accusations." As if a ten year old girl would even know what it is, rather than lie about it. And they condemn the Episcopalians for having a gay bishop? It's absolute hypocrisy!

Does anyone remember when they were in kindergarten or elementary school, did they ever teach you about "stranger danger," or how to recognize when someone is touching you inappropriately, and what to do if they did? I remember it vividly; they used to say one of the most important things was to tell a school official or a responsible adult. They also stressed the importance that is is never the child's fault. But imagine being in an organization where they do think it's the child's fault. They look at the victim with distrust and suspicion and say "you're making false accusations against your brother and bringing reproach upon him and Jehovah's organization." Just imagine being a child in this sick organization.

When I compare the number of times they condemn the above mentioned sex lives of the rest of the world to their almost silence regarding child abuse, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that they encourage their members to become pedophiles through extreme social isolation and sexual repression.

What do you think Mike?

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SEX CRAZED ELDER CAN'T CONTROL

by DannyHaszard in

this is again top ranked news for jw keywords worldwide.

ex-elder can't control sex urges.

"he masturbates and fantasizes, so of course, he'd touch a girl.

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Wow, blame it on the briefcase, that's very original. And since when do you "accidently" touch little girls? Exactly where was he trying to put it in? Her pocket?

By the way, what is a ten year old girl, who is not his relative, doing in his kitchen baking him a pie? Where are her parents? Why are JW's so damn trusting of eachother? Just because you go to the same church with a man and share in the same rituals doesn't mean you know anything about him. That doesn't mean you leave your kids alone with him.

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THE BACK PEDDLING HAS ALREADY BEGUN......

by Mary in

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as i mentioned before in another thread, my dub aunt, along with several other witnesses, told me that they were specifically told that the governing body let it be known that tract work would trigger the beginning of the end by infuriating the other religions and somehow causing the governments to "turn on babylon the great".

this was supposed to start before the end of this year.

one thing i mentioned is that they were smart enough this time, not to put anything down in writing, but simply let it get around by "word of mouth".

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Hey Mike, I know I'll be the first to buy your book :)

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Anything going on in New York area?

by fxdwg97 in

hello everyone, i am working in the long island area temporarly from minnesota.

my wife, stealyourface, said to check out the board.. i don't get to get on here alot because of my job, but would like to meet some more people..

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Hello! I'm sure there's alot going on here, I'm sort of looking for things in New York myself.

Hi Steve, are you in NYC?

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SEX CRAZED ELDER CAN'T CONTROL

by DannyHaszard in

this is again top ranked news for jw keywords worldwide.

ex-elder can't control sex urges.

"he masturbates and fantasizes, so of course, he'd touch a girl.

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Martin was not charged after he promised police to step down as an elder in the church and get counselling.

Oh, well, as long as he "promised," that makes it all better. After all, that is the policy of the law in America. Let the confessed crimminal go as long as he "promises never to do it again."

His congregation was told he had health problems.

There's the good ol' theocratic war strategy boys and girls! Now how did I see that one coming? Lets see, he's lying to the congregation so he will remain in good standing and have free access to innocent children. But God forbid you "bring reproach upon Jehovah's Organization." And don't worry about the rank and file, they're too stupid to read a newspaper.

This is just beyond disgusting. Why the hell are they treating him like some sort of child who doesn't know better? THE GUY IS PRACTICALLY BRAGGING ABOUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPER!!!

Poor baby, lets not do anything to hurt him or his reputation just because he's 75 years old. And never mind about his victims, I'm sure it was "all their fault." Well guess what asshole, alot of us had horrible childhoods. We all have pain! Everyone here has pain!!! But we grow up and live our lives, we don't go around molesting innocent children!!! And you even did it in a stranger's house under the guise of God's work??? Now I know that Hell exists because right now there is no other goddam place to put you!!

Sorry Danny, I'm a little upset right now. It's bad enough he did this, but why does he get to go free? Isn't there any justice in America anymore?

Will someone please get Mariska Hargitay from Law and Order down here to kick this guys ass?

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The Christmas Star

by praiseband in

jw literature tries to persuade us that the star was actually sent by satan to guide the evil magi to the site of jesus and his family.

yet, the bible tells us in genesis that god was the creator of all the stars in the heavens.

nowhere that i am familiar with does the bible state that satan made any of the stars or any other celestial object.

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Leave it to the Watchtower to turn the star of Bethlem, one of the most celebrated and peaceful symbols in history, into a satanic icon of "pagan" gods. They just want any excuse possible to make everyone's lives as miserable as their own.

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Judicial Committee Audio Recording

by Shaolu in

about a week ago i had my little meeting with "the bobs" (yuk yuk), and i got the whole thing digitally recorded.

it's available online, along with a written transcript here...

http://www.ichthusstudios.org/cults/jw/

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Brillo Beards, Ha Ha Ha!

We need a good radio/TV show during soap opera time. I bet many would get a kick out of it.

Here's some suggestions:

Like Rat Poison Through My Mother, So Are The Days of The Watchtower

Like an Epidural Through an Elder, So are The Days of Our Lives

No Life To Live

As The Rest of the World Turns

Guiding (Old) Light

All My Disfellowshipped Children

General (No Organ, Some Organ, Yes Organs, No Blood, Blood Fractions, Some Blood, Monkey Blood) Hospital

The Old and The Witless

The Unfaithful and The Indiscreet

Desperate Braindead-Pretend-My-Husband's-Not-A-Pedophile- Housewives

Dynasty 2: Divas of The End Times, starring Tori Spelling as Mrs. Charles Taze Russell, Shannon Dougherty as The Chick Who Can't Act, Paris Hilton as The Harlot Who Rides the Beast, and introducing (drum roll please) Judge Rutherford as the Beast!

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2006 SERVICE REPORT - Feb 1, 2007 WT

by Mary in

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friends

i'm not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here are the figures for the 2006 service report.

i highlighted the countries that have either a "0" or negative growth in yellow and i highlighted key countries where the you would expect more growth......i tried looking for england's stats, but i couldn't see it.

i looked under "england" and "united kingdom" but i can't see it.

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Go Canada! You guys are smart!

By the way Mary, just out of curiosity , was there any increase in Malawi or Mexico? I'm hoping at least some of the dubs there are aware of what the Watchtower did to them. I hope no one has asked that question yet, I don't have time to read all the posts :)

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