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  Understanding.

  by Narkissos in

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  i was thinking that understanding -- in the sense of self-, community- or world-understanding -- might be the main stuff people are looking for, and willing to buy, in religion and philosophy.

  even before hope, comfort, practical help or the sense of belonging.

  a "vision" (in greek theoria) that "makes sense" of "reality" as it is perceived and construed.. it seems to me that such understanding (or intelligibility) has little to do with "truth".

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  freetosee

  A man is standing on a railroad track and he sees a speed-train coming towards him. So he had knowledge of those facts.

  He realises that him standing on the track very the fast train will soon hit and seriously cause damage. Making sense of the facts he has gathered gives him understanding of the situation he is in and how it most likely will result.

  The man does not want to get hurt and comprehends the need to make the right decision followed by action. Using wisdom he steps aside from the track and the train goes pass him.

  I don't know much, so I try to gather all the knowledge I can get, while trying to understand and make sense of my gatherings and hopefully make more wise decision in my life then bad ones.

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  To Cognac: What happned with...?

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

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  i seem to recall that soon after you first started posting here you introduced a friend who also started posting - i can't find the original thread (hope i am not confusing you with someone else) what happened with her?

  and also your friend who was going to have the abortion?

  what did she do in the end?.

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  freetosee

  Well, I guess since Cognac's friend got treated badly here on JWD and for that reason quit posting, she would not appreciate being discussed on this forum...
  Nothing smells fishy to me!
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  God is attending to an emergency elsewhwere

  by edmond dantes in

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  after considering all available scenarios i am of the opinion that the creator started project planet earth and then unexpectedly got called away to another job, maybe to an emergency at the other side of a black hole and it is taking longer than than he first assumed to fix it.at the beginning he got as far as creating life on earth and then whoosh !

  he was away leaving the world not quite right.. bearing that in mind it is up to us ,the human race,to run things to the best of our abilities until the good lord comes back and continues where he left off.we have to make sure that we look after the total package for him and ourselves and as far as is possible trying to right the wrongs.you know what i mean , we have to be keepers' and carers' and not religious nuts.. when the creator comes back he can answer all the questions we need to know but until then let's just get on with the task ahead..

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  freetosee

  No, not an emergency. I think God is a very busy person just trying to keep up with the WT New Light...
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  Anyone DF'd and you DID'NT know why?

  by avishai in

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  almost never in all the halls i've been in, it was always common knowledge.

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  freetosee

  My sister had a bible study who was an approved associate. The BS got married and it was later found out that she was pregnant before the marriage. My father was master of ceremony, prayed and gave a speech at her wedding.
  So when the elders found out about this my father also got in trouble and was told by one of the special pioneer elders that another elder was removed for serving the ceremony at a worldly wedding. By this time the couple was on a long visit to the US (he worked for the US forces) and my father was to do the investigation and was asked to make the decision if she can remain in the approved standing. So all my father did, in fear of losing his eldership, was call the BS on the phone, who was far away in the US, and because she did not reply he rushed to have an appropriate announcement made that she is no longer in good standing. At that time I felt that the matter did not get dealt with in line with the society. My father didn't even speak to my sister to find out that the BS was not in the country. When the elders found out later it was to late. The announcement was already made and jah must have had a reason. After that the BS got treated as if df'ed, because she already began taking the baptism questions.
  So the bible study got kicked out and didn't even know about it. On the other hand, almost everybody in the congregation knew and the reasons for the action taken. That she was actually never approached about this to was not to be spoken about. There was an apology to my sister (the BS conductor), but not to the baptismal candidate. It's a life saving work indeed!!!

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  no longer a JW annoucement

  by asilentone in

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  if they make announcement in the kh that person is no longer a jw, do they treat them as disfellowshipped?

  they made annoucement for my friend that is no longer a jw, his girflfriend invited me to go bowling.

  i told her that i cannot do that because since i am a fader and i do not want to get caught since i have jw family ties.

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  Just a couple of years back, the wts wanted more privileges in Germany. The Berlin Senate criticised the the blood issue and the NO to voting. A responsible official told me that there will be changes on those issues. that was about half a year before it was in the wt. (So much to new light and FDS. A servant of Satan's beast knew about the "light" before any of the anointed I know did...)
  Speaking to a former wt heavy, I found out that no jw was ever df'ed for voting, joining the military or politics, not even for taking blood. The announcement in those cases were not "Soandso has been df'ed from the christian congregation", but rather "Soandso is no longer recognized as one of jws."
  This was done since a former witness sued the wts for df'ing him and separating him from his family because he wanted to serve his country and joined the military.
  The wording at those announcements are very important!
  If the jw is df'ed, it will say so in his files. If the jw is no longer recognized as a jw, he will still be carried as (inactive) member of the congregation. To the person the treatment will be exactly the same as if df'ed (shunning!!!), but legally to makes a vast difference. The wt can publicly say, "no jw was ever df'ed for taking blood".

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  To Cognac: What happned with...?

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

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  i seem to recall that soon after you first started posting here you introduced a friend who also started posting - i can't find the original thread (hope i am not confusing you with someone else) what happened with her?

  and also your friend who was going to have the abortion?

  what did she do in the end?.

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  freetosee

  I'm not sure what this thread is aiming at, but there was a long thread, which I cant find now, where Cognac and her friend were accused of being trolls. It even went so far that CoffeeBack meet with both of them (if I remember correctly) in order to clarify that they are two separate and real people. Sad to say due to the treatment they received here Cognac's friend, I understand, quite posting. I think Cognac is not a troll or have I missed something since then?
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  Anyone know of specific subliminal pictures?

  by cognac in

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  the only one i know about is the big jesus in the revelation book.. know of any specific other ones?

  i want to show hubby....

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  freetosee

  I don't think it shows evil influence or anything so dramatic. I think it shows that there are people in the art dept who get a kick out of it.

  http://www.freeminds.org/history/subliminal.htm
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  He's got the whole world in his hands

  by moomanchu in

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  has this video been posted before?.

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=ekrl3lluq7a&feature=related.

  jw's ruin a nice song.. .

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  freetosee

  I remember my father telling us that this song praises satan. It was a common thought in the congregation...

  I dont agree with the video, but think it is well done. I hope jws watching it may also watch videos like those of "V"! At least some or many dubs are using the internet...
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  Anyone know of specific subliminal pictures?

  by cognac in

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  the only one i know about is the big jesus in the revelation book.. know of any specific other ones?

  i want to show hubby....

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  freetosee

  Cognac,

  

  the picture of the heavenly city in the Climax book page 302 was striking to me even as a jw. The golden city of John's vision didn't look like Jerusalem or any other city of that time. What does the depiction of the city remind you off? To me it looks like Brooklyn New York!! lol
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  VERY BAD NEWS...my son is going to Bethel............

  by oompa in

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  i can not describe the sadness of hearing him tell me, i asked him to think about what a great part time job he has, with free schooling.

  he says they will probably take him back.

  his abilities are suitable for closing down brooklyn, so at least he will be there (i love nyc).

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  freetosee

  I agree with whats been said... lets hope it opens his eyes...

  fts