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It only speaks about with or without sin, missing the mark!
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Words That Are Not In The Bible
by Nosferatu ini'd like to compile a list for my next blog, but i would love some help.
they can refer to any religion you like.
here's a start:.
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Hypothetical ? for u. What if armageddon really did come...
by *jeremiah* inok, here's a hypothetical that i'm curious about.. what if armageddon really did happen?
not necessarily according to jw terms or timetable, but at some point it happens in your lifetime.
would any of you return to the jws?.
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I would rather do like Job’s wife said: "curse god and die!"
I wouldn’t want to live never mind worship a god so powerful to bring Armageddon, yet never cared to protect the innocent.
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Did demons ever really rape some sisters?
by hambeak ini had a conversation last night with someone and we were reminescing about the late 60's and early 70's about how a couple of the sisters were telling at the time that they were being molested and sometimes raped by demons.
in our cong they were told to open the bible to a certain scripture and leave the bible open to it at all times and leave a light on.
anyone else remember some of this paranoia?
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I feel like taking a risk on the platform tomorrow night.
by SirNose586 inin my bible highlights part, i am going to espouse a pro-soup kitchen/salvation army/homeless shelter view.
right on the heels of that, i'm going to support (higher) education as a means of bettering ones' self.. what will i get: insta-jc?
front of the hall talk?
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freetosee
Wow, that worked out really fine SirNose! I like the way you test out things and continue from there. It shows that with the right words in proper doses much can be said without getting in trouble. Time will tell.
I believe there is a large number that aren’t happy with many of the wt policies, like shunning, education, blood, not going to authorities, celebrating birthdays, etc.. Few I remember speaking about this privately. Many are tired of the constant push to go out in FS and to be measured by this.
So hearing their "own" reasoning from the platform supported by scriptures and bible characters may make some seeds grow. My family usually discussed the program parts of the brothers on the drive home or the following day. So you never know, you might get some warm smiles on Sunday. The saying NOTHING to you speaks volumes.
IMO, the more speeches you can give, dropping some independent thinking here and there, the better it will be when they eventually move to d’f you or you one day DA yourself. Some will say they saw it coming, but others will start to question things. Because at a d’fing or DA the person is the number one topic for the next couple of weeks.
I think the way you are handling this and your strategy so far is fantastic.
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Please share this inspiring story with everyone you know.
by under_believer inpeople have been posting "encouraging" stories from their witness mailing lists lately.
i thought i'd share one i encountered, too.
many years ago, a new family moved into our neighborhood, little six-year-old emma and her mom and dad.
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freetosee
Good story!
For a six year old little girl her grasp of language was incredible.
Absolutly!
The video is great! lol
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Um..hi...I'm new too!
by Ex-Jo Ho inwow!
i came across this site and i felt a huge weight come off of my shoulders!
someone understands!
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freetosee
Welcome!
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I feel like taking a risk on the platform tomorrow night.
by SirNose586 inin my bible highlights part, i am going to espouse a pro-soup kitchen/salvation army/homeless shelter view.
right on the heels of that, i'm going to support (higher) education as a means of bettering ones' self.. what will i get: insta-jc?
front of the hall talk?
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freetosee
Excellent, today I whish I had done something like that.
If your talk is not 100% in line with the watchtower, the school overseer or the PO will have to make corrections (if possible) right after your talk. That will be interesting. The more reasonable (from the scriptures) you make it, the more difficult it will be for the elder to "clarify" your misunderstanding (of wt policies).
Reminding them of Daniel and the princes or even Paul who enjoyed higher education and comparing that to the applications for bethel service. How much more valuable you are when you are better educated most of all it makes it easier to care for a family in these critical times.
I don’t think they can call a JC on you, you only stated what you understand from the bible and it is what your bible trained conscience agrees with. Oh wait, isn’t that apostasy? I guess the overall tone of your talk will be the decisive factor. Maybe not a JC, but your ministerial servant privileges might be questioned, which means no teaching assignments for a whole while.
Yes, put it on tape if you can and especially the follow-up of the overseer.
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Shining as Illuminators in The World--pdf!
by Atlantis inthe pdf file for "shining as illuminators in the world" also includes the [pages for notes] just as they appear in this 253 page book.
here are two hosting sites you can use to download the book.
the first link below will show seconds counting down under the words: [ download description: education]near the bottom of the page and the download link will appear in blue numbers and letters.
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THX Atlantis!
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JW Murder Fetish - More LIES!!!
by LeahJasmine inok, so i misinterpreted this author's other article, but this one really does go way beyond.
it's "jehovah witness murder fetish (a psychological model)".
i don't think there's anyway that i am misunderstanding this one - he's saying that the watchtower is to blame!.
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Leah,
I think it’s great you want to check out the jw history and stand up against lies. I too, hate it when someone lies and deceives me. When I was told that the wts had often predicted and gave dates for Armageddon, I didn’t believe it and tried to do research on wt publications.
Getting the truth or new light through the pages of the wt, one only needs to point to the written wt material in order to get a true answer to anyone making claims about jws. If anyone makes quotations of wt writings to support his claims, check out if the quotation is accurate. Misquotations are lies, but finding the quotation "word-for-word" directly in the wt publication means that it is true. So it is always best to make a note of the quotation and check out your own wt library or the one at the kingdom hall. There are also many older wt publications available online, let us know if you would like a link to the downloads.
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Bible Contradictions?
by Aequitus ini was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).
i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.
this was not the case and i left after two hours.
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freetosee
I attended meetings from childhood on and yes it is very disturbing that children are sucked into a cult without having a choice. Those meetings are difficult for children, since the information is not designed for children yet they are expected to keep still and silent for such a long time. Children are the biggest victims!
Then you always have those in every congregation who become very irritated and annoyed over babies and children crying or making noise, so they give the young parents a hard time through constant complaining and bad looks. It just shows what kind of people they really are. The aim is to have a big happy family atmosphere, but the more you know about the many enmities, the pressure, and the constant control of the members also the covered-up mental and physical abuse of children, you can see it has little to do with love, patients and care.
The members are forever drilled to attend all meetings, to prepare and actively participate at these meetings, to go out to the public placing literature and to make more members. The leadership knows that once the members get more time to think for themselves they loose faith. That is what helped me to break free. After a short time the powerful elders lost all their "glory" and I questioned more and more what is taught and really achieved at those meetings. I realised that the "truth" I was indoctrinated to believe was actually brainwashing. I never thought that would be possible.
I think it is very affective to point out to jws that the bible has many contradictions, even more so to show how the WTS teachings contradict the bible in order to demonstrate that the jw approach to the scriptures is not healthy and only productive for the interests of the WT Corporation.
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