Posts by oneairhead

i got a private message today from an active witness who both himself and his wife now say that "i now see that jw's are all about interpretation and not some special understanding".

figures that i'm almost done with the series too lol, i've got one more update to do before my final question that i've come up with for the series.

oneairhead

Yeah, 45 babtised at the DC convention this weekend. And someone visiting our convention said that they had 75 at theirs. Sad!!!

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Responding to "It's the truth because it follows the Bible, ..."

by OnTheWayOut in

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"it's the truth because it follows the bible, rejects the trinity and hellfire, engages in worldwide preaching.".

i hear that from the jw's in my life.

the last time, i challenged the aspect of a worldwide preaching work.. i said that the work is barely scratching the surface in 2/3rds of the world- muslim, hindu, buddist lands.

expenses -vs- donations............. the fall of the Watchtower empire

by DaCheech in

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as long as i've been here, i have preached that $$$$$ will be the only way for the wt to drop.. many agree on a small level, but think the wt has deep pockets.. they may have deep pockets, but i bet the investments they have have lost quite a bit since 2001.. my main calculation reguards the following hypothesis::::::.

magazine and literature consumption -vs- donations.

i know of 2 congregations, and let me post some figures:.

oneairhead

I think some have touched on it here but the fall will come from the R&F numbers dwindling. There will always be money in the borg's accounts but when there are hardly any members to lord it over they might as well just divy up the proceeds.

I really am convinced that a power play is going on with regards to the GB and if Losch is successful in coming into power the hardline will finally help persons fall off the fence and away from the borg.

One day all the WBTS will be is a real estate holdings company.

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News from Mother ship

by jefferywhat in

1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.

2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.

was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.

oneairhead

This is the one I am always checking in on.

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Today at the Watchtower..........

by oneairhead in

today at the watchtower on young ones, i wrote a note in the margin during the study.

it was on the paragraph that said something to the affect of, how sad it would be for young ones to loose out so close to the end.

" i wrote "the carrot.

oneairhead

OK, here is the update on this situation.......

My wife and I drove home with no indication that much was wrong other than she was tired.

We got home and she laid down to take a nap during which i wrote the above thread.

Before she got up I started preparing dinner, and she walks into the kitchen with the look that I don't see very often. That stressed mad look that people get when you say something about their mother or father.

She tells me that she thought I was actually paying attention and that made her feel good. I was underlining the answers until she determined that I was not underlinging the answers after all but was picking apart the watchtower. She also made some statements that were totally supposition saying that even though I feel like her beliefs are crap...... Stuff that is totally not true I respect her beliefs.

She said some other things out of rage that were not true about the way i feel about things.

So, after that little outburst, I said let's sit down, very calmly.

i explained that there has been a huge elephant in the room for a long time and out of repsect for her I chose not to address it. But i am very happy that we were now about to address it. I explained that I know the pain that she is feeling because I felt the same pain when i found out some of things I now know about the WBTS.

I also explained somewhat tearfully about how i felt like this organization was going to be the death of my father due to the amount of stress that it puts on him, along with all of the other responsibilities he has. My mother also devotes most of her retirement to it ruining cars on these dirt roads here and using this time to promote a religion that may or may not be the chosen one.

I also was able to just touch on a few things that i have found in my research. Also brought her up to date on some of the recent changes coming down the pipline.

She of course tried to throw at me that Satan was just using these cunning arguments to deceive me. But I said to her what arguments? All I have looked at are the facts. I said there are documentation to prove these things. just the actions of the organization itself prove a lot of things. I also told her that the WTBS changes the watchtower after it is written when the bound volumes come out etc...

I could not tell weather any of these things caused her to think or appealed to her more, but she definitely was not zoning out when I was speaking with her, which was good. She also was not actively trying to refute every little thing i said.

She made a comment when it was over that she appreciated that i did not get upset when she confronted me.

I think some progress was made. I am going to give her Barbara Anderson's introduction to her new book to read and see where that goes. It really shows Barbara's credentials on the subjects she speaks about and see what I can cultivate.

At some point in time i am going to introduce her to JWD and I may or may not post under a different name so that she does not feel exposed.

Keep your fingers crossed. There was of course a lot more that we spoke about but maybe if you ask that right questions I will think of some more things to say later.

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Today at the Watchtower..........

by oneairhead in

today at the watchtower on young ones, i wrote a note in the margin during the study.

it was on the paragraph that said something to the affect of, how sad it would be for young ones to loose out so close to the end.

" i wrote "the carrot.

oneairhead

milligal - I appreciate the kind words. When I read through the threads on hear it really perks me up, because when she is down I am down. I just wish she ccould experience the same freedom that I am experiencing in my mind.

RR - Lets hope so!

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Shock and Awe Doctrine/Changes- Watchtower Comments

by burningbridges in

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hey everybody, i wanted to compile some watchtower / book references of doctrine changes or absolutely horrific comments the watchtower has said to show to my soon to be ex husband (i'm trying to get him to drift, so far it is not working, like at all, but i'm hopeful.

) here's a good example of something that did shock him though!!!!

the watchtower said this about apostates and how they would like to be able to kill them: .

oneairhead

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Today at the Watchtower..........

by oneairhead in

today at the watchtower on young ones, i wrote a note in the margin during the study.

it was on the paragraph that said something to the affect of, how sad it would be for young ones to loose out so close to the end.

" i wrote "the carrot.

oneairhead

Yeah I am. I really am at the point that what happens, happens. But you know that I will let everyone know.

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