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Puffs Weekday Poll #1
by teenyuck in
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ozzie has his, now i would like to get some information on all my apostate friends.

i will be conducting weekday polls and posting the tallies.

thank you in advance for your participation!
Derrick

[1] Hit snooze bar a couple of times
[2] Take a few gulps of bottled water
[3] Shave
[4] Drink glass of fresh orange juice then brush teeth
[5] Shower, towel dry, comb hair
[6] Put on boxer shorts, then semi-formal trowsers each starting with left leg first, hop-balance on left leg while grappling with right leg next, middle leg last, then buckle -- sorry Puffs, this level of detail is probably more than you care to know
[7] Put on button-down shirt, fasten all buttons except for top button of course
[8] Put on belt and wrist watch
[9] Unbuckle trowsers for quick tuck of shirt tails, buckle trowsers and belt, put on socks and shoes
[10] Clip cell phone to trowsers, put billfold, moneyclip and car keys in pockets
[11] Grab cold bottled water from fridge
[12] Arm and lock house, get in car, start gulping ice cold water and head to Starbucks
[13] Arrive at Starbucks and order coffee, add cream and sugar
[14] Enjoy coffee during 15 minute freeway commute
[15] Arrive at office ready for another "kickass productive day" to paraphrase one colleague
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Hollywood and Silentlambs
by Derrick in
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it takes but one major star, producer or hollywood executive to take the tragic silentlambs saga to heart.

imagine kevin costner as bill bowen.

i'm still trying to decide the actors who should play each of the governing body members... .
Derrick

It takes but one major star, producer or Hollywood executive to take the tragic Silentlambs saga to heart. Imagine Kevin Costner as Bill Bowen. I'm still trying to decide the actors who should play each of the Governing Body members...
Those who are blessed with friends or business contacts in Hollywood should bring them up to speed on the Silentlambs situation.
Derrick
Edited by - Derrick on 7 August 2002 21:5:43
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Martha Poll
by Derrick in
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2. friends
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[ ] innocent .

[ ] guilty .
Derrick

jozb5: I like Martha. I don't understand why so many people have such disdain for her. I like her show, books and magazines, because she and her staff comes up with some pretty cute stuff that I can do.
Look I'm a stay at home mother with little money because of where I live and I have used her ideas and pointers to decorate my house for the holidays when I had barely enough money to buy presents. Those things that I made by hand I cherish more than anything I had bought. And she has a righteous recipe for Thanksgiving turkey that my hubby loves.
I think Martha made a big mistake and being that she was a trained stock broker, she knew better and she should have to pay for that mistake like anyone else but I will never understand the snide remarks and hate that people have for her.
Josie
Hi Josie,
I agree that she is a nice person who is very talented. Although I'm not really into the domestic thing (hint: I'm a man who tends to let the house go before letting guilt drive me into a cleaning binge), her shows are still fun to watch. She also has some remarkable taste for home furnishing (in classic comfy furnishings and rich tasteful color schemes), great culinary taste, and a nice likeable personality. She is a role model for sisters in various congregations I have attended, to the point where one might think she cloned herself and then her clones become JWs (ROTFLOL). Actually that is what inspired my question about whether everyone who took the survey would have gone more easy on her if she were a JW. I was trying to see how many are biased to Witness women who are Martha-types, IOW.
Martha screwed up bigtime in not filling out that form someone mentioned. However, I seriously don't think she deserves to be airing her cooking and home shows in a prison jumpsuit from a prison mess hall. On the otherhand, if she is sent to prison, she will likely turn that prison into a Martha showcase with gourmet meals and well dressed beds. :-)
I tend to believe that Martha's fall from the lofty pedestal of "perfection" will provide an important moral object-lesson to all. People find dishonesty in "little" matters too easy. Adding insult to injury is that those who believe rich people get preferential treatment in the United States seem to consider Martha as a sterling example. Perhaps our government will show the world we don't discriminate between the rich and poor, even if it means cuffing Martha during one of her Good Morning America shows and parading her before a media circus in a squad car from Manhattan island down to get a change of cloths and her photograph taken.
I doubt anyone wants to see this happen to someone who has been such a sterling example for women around the world. What man wouldn't want a wife with her domestic talents and skills? (Sorry if that came across as demeaning, when in fact it was meant as the supreme compliment to those women who have mastered these skills. Even the Bible praises such women who can impeccably run a household.)
Derrick
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Joanie, The Jehovah Witness Stripper
by LB in
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2. friends
i downloaded this song and can't seem to get enough of it.

the song and lyrics are by paul thorn.. .

she drives a new car.
Derrick

Just curious, is Joanie a real sister in need of marrying a good brother to keep her safe at home with no financial or other needs to concern herself over, or is she another JW urban legend?
Derrick
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Martha Poll
by Derrick in
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2. friends
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[ ] innocent .

[ ] guilty .
Derrick

Would any Martha Poll takers past or about-to-vote change their vote or comments, IF they learned she was a JW?
The question is simply rhetorical, read nothing more into it.
Derrick
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things to do before you die
by teejay in
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2. experiences
my mom and sister came for a visit this past weekend.

it was a good weekend.. at one point, i asked sis about the new tattoos i noticed that she now has.

"what prompted you to do it?
Derrick

I deleted my post- could not fix bizaar format/display errors. :( (Simon - the screen widens andhtml code displays even after I fix it.)
Edited by - Derrick on 7 August 2002 17:34:37
Edited by - Derrick on 7 August 2002 17:36:46
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Martha Poll
by Derrick in
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2. friends
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[ ] innocent .

[ ] guilty .
Derrick

[ ] Innocent
[ ] Guilty
Why?
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Proof That Monsters Exist In Real Life
by Derrick in
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the title is not misleading.

i can prove that monsters really exist, although genetic tests of the species of these monsters might frighten and alarm you.

tests will reveal human dna.
Derrick

Bang wrote:
Their message isn't good news, 'God's spell', it would rank with the very worst news that I've heard yet, and at the moment I can't think of any comparisons. It's nothing but a deal, and one with a wicked image.
Provided they stick to the message from God's written word, the Holy Bible, then they will simply be messengers of a timeless message that God plans to restore the Garden of Eden on a global scale, and repair the damage to the human genome caused by our original ancestors Adam and Eve.
Dia wrote:
within the structure of JWs, the problems are fed and stroked. They gain 'divine approval' and they get even worse.
Excellent point, Dia, their mistakes are ensconsed in their publications thus turning the ramblings of a few uninspired individuals in the Watchtower Society's writing dept. into new age "scripture" that is quoted above the Bible at every judicial committee hearing.
Derrick
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Proof That Monsters Exist In Real Life
by Derrick in
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2. friends
the title is not misleading.

i can prove that monsters really exist, although genetic tests of the species of these monsters might frighten and alarm you.

tests will reveal human dna.
Derrick

heathen wrote:
You really had me thinking of Stephen Kings Silver bullet where it turns out that the minister is the warewolf .
Excellent metaphor.
AjaxMan wrote:
Derrick, you certainly presented a good case and you did prove your point. Let me ask you a question: Do you agree with me that the WTS and all other cults are real-life monsters per se?
I haven't experienced other cults but was baptized at a circuit assembly of Jehovah's Witnesses over 25 years ago. My baptism was in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and was a valid Christian baptism. (As you may know, in 1985 the Holy Spirit was disfellowshipped for apostasy, and baptisms thereafter were in the name of the Father, the Son, and God's Spirit-Directed Organization. I'm speaking facetiously of course.) Before getting baptized in my teens, I did extensive research on their teachings about the origins and pagan history of Christmas and other holidays until I was satisifed there was a legit scriptural basis for these teachings. In researching various teachings, not having time to research them all (since I was in high school and needed to attend to homework and cirricular activities), I was reasonably convinced the Jehovah's Witnesses were preaching the "truth." Bear in mind that back in the 1970's through the 1980's, JWs for the most part didn't have the incredible research tool called the Internet to discover less obvious problems with various teachings such as the JW blood doctrine. Back then, I was into electronics and astronomy, a sort of "nerd" of my time. Now, with the Internet and all, I likely would have stumbled across too many problems to accept the Watchtower's teachings as the ultimate "truth." Also, I would never have shunned the DF'd Holy Spirit, not only because sinning against him is really bad for one's eternal well-being, but because I would have reasoned "how can the Watchtower claim they are inspired by the Holy Spirit if they kicked him out of the baptism talk at assemblies?" (I refer to the Holy Spirit as "him" in the sense that "he" is too holy and divine IMO to simply get relegated as energy that eternally powers the Everready Bunny, but I still acknowledge and recognize that male/female sex designations relating to the Holy Spirit are not necessarily relevant. That's a whole separate discussion, though!)
The bottomline in answering your question is that the Watchtower Society is the corporate arm of a "cult" per se, similar to other small Christian churches being designated as "cults" (and similar to early Christians being designated as such). That "cult" concerned itself with the mandate of preaching the good news of Christ's millennial kingdom as Christ commanded his followers to preach to the whole world, as a witness to all the nations, prior to the end of this "system of things" (or present civilization ruled by humans using human wisdom and knowledge). Regretfully, individual men have deviated from the truth who were given the privilege of serving as governing body members over the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses (which I believe is one member of Christ's extended "body" which spans the globe in various forms, including relief efforts, i.e., world hunger organizations that literally feed the hungry and dying, and spiritual relief efforts such as the Watchtower's and other ministries to feed the spiritual soul with truths from the Bible). That deviation at the highest level of Bethel, or Watchtower world headquarters, has resulted in discredited the worldwide preaching work of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Therefore, asking if the Watchtower Society is a real life "monster" per se is asking the wrong question. The pertinent question is will Jehovah and Christ continue to bless the worldwide preaching work if the Watchtower continues to effectively give sanctuary to real life "monsters" while persecuting (i.e., as in to disfellowship) those who expose the atrocities these "monsters" commit?
Derrick
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Proof That Monsters Exist In Real Life
by Derrick in
1. jw
2. friends
the title is not misleading.

i can prove that monsters really exist, although genetic tests of the species of these monsters might frighten and alarm you.

tests will reveal human dna.
Derrick
The title is not misleading. I can prove that monsters really exist, although genetic tests of the species of these monsters might frighten and alarm you.

Tests will reveal human DNA. This should not surprise many who have kept current in the news.

At bedtime parents often assure a young child who is afraid a monster is lurking under the bed or in the closet, that monsters don't exist in "real life." They assure the frightened young child that monsters are "figments of our overactive imaginations."

However, parents who have kept abreast of the news lately, and especially parents who are baptized Jehovah's Witnesses, must struggle with their consciences when telling children that monsters don't really exist. Many others simply believe they are telling the child the truth, that monsters don't exist. That is to say, they who believe their congregation and place of worship is a safe haven from the abberations in nature that prey upon young children filling the news of late.

Often we tell our children lies to protect them. We rationalize that telling them monsters don't exist is just a "little white lie" justified to protect the innocence of the child. Some of us even believe there are no real monsters, and that our children are safe amongst our spiritual brothers and sisters and literal family.

One little girl who represents many other children found out that monsters really do exist. She learned through firsthand experience the world today hardly resembles the world that existed as recently as a decade ago. The world today, she discovered, is a strange, hate-filled and dangerous place that is alien to concepts of human decency and dignity. The world today resembles something out of a terrible nightmare or science fiction horror movie. The problem is that she is not having a nightmare from which she can awaken.

She is wide awake.

She cannot wake up from a terror that will haunt her well into her adult life.
"CONCORD, N.H. (AP) The state Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld the conviction of a Bible-quoting man who sexually abused a young girl, starting when she was 4 years old and ending when she was 10.

Paul Berry, 46, was convicted of 17 counts of aggravated felonious sexual assault two years ago. He was sentenced to 56 to 112 years in prison, possibly the longest sentence ever given for sexual assault in the state.

{. . .}

The assaults included Berry hanging the girl by her wrists from hooks on a barn wall and, on another occasion, tying her to a tree, according to court records. The girl testified that Berry, a Jehovahs Witness, quoted Scriptures while forcing her to perform sex acts.

{. . .}" (N.H. Supreme Court upholds conviction of man who sexually abused girl - Associated Press.)
Ordinarily, we would report to both the elders and authorities someone or rather some thing who terrorizes a child in our congregation. Naturally, in the process we might say something critical of the crime. It is only natural to express outrage at any crime especially those against innocent children.

Unfortunately, it is as if we are suddenly behind the looking glass in Alice's wonderland. As we seem to travel deeper into the rabit's hole, we feel an increasing sense of disbelief in recent disfellowshippings of those who have expressed outrage against the very type of crime reported in the Associated Press above, and who also reported these crimes to the elders and/or police.

This can't be possible, can it? Could the Watchtower Society sudden turn on a dime and persecute those who protect children from rape and sexual torture? WHY? The fact it doesn't make sense has caused many Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide to simply shutdown emotionally, and deny these news reports and hard facts behind the reports.

To do otherwise and face these facts could possibly imply we are either closer to the "end" than we thought, or worse, that the Watchtower Society has been completely rejected by Jehovah God and Jesus Christ!

The facts about the current epidemic of disfellowshippings of those who criticize and/or report sexual crimes against children in the congregation, seems to demonstrate that those wishing to remain in good standing with the Watchtower Society MUST REMAIN SILENT. Why draw this conclusion? Because a rash of disfellowshippings is occurring; those who refused to remain silent, and made these crimes known, have been called before judicial committees and disfellowshipped in recent weeks.

Did I prove that monsters exist in real life? You be the judge.

Derrick
aka CogentMinded
Note: Originally posted at another forum; see this link: http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=311102&CategoryID=2967&startcat=1&ThreadID=233091