Here's the first centerfold for the new "members only" edition of the Watchtower magazine:
Quandry
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Bro PRINCE brings GLORY to JEHOVAH
by DannyHaszard insingle review: prince - "black sweat"
(comment box join in).
blogcritics.org, oh - 4 hours ago.
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Bro PRINCE brings GLORY to JEHOVAH
by DannyHaszard insingle review: prince - "black sweat"
(comment box join in).
blogcritics.org, oh - 4 hours ago.
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Quandry
Is this just me or is a picture of a man with his shirt opened, under what looks like a bustier, an Eqyptian symbol around his neck, and looking Down on the earth as if he is in control,just a weeeeeee bit of a stretch for one who professes to be a Witness?
Maybe this picture, along with the recent picture of Serena Williams in a scimpy bikini, could be foldouts of the new "insider's only" edition of the Watchtower magazine.
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Please welcome my wife to the JWD
by Paralipomenon inthis has been an interesting week.
early in the week my wife started corresponding with one of her old friends.
he is no longer a witness and while i'm not sure what the catalyst was they started talking about why he left the witnesses.
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Quandry
Welcome. Please allow yourself time for things to sink in. It can be a bit overwhelming. I am sure you are concerned for the children and that's why you went to the Silentlambs site. Isn't it good to know that there are those who will stand up for what is right?
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We Are Dying!
by WeAreDying-Ophelia inthis is my first post and might be my only post, not sure.
i've chosen to "come out" for a moment just to talk about the 30 minute change in the public talk on sundays.
my father and brother are both elders, this change was a blow to them they enjoy giving encouraging public talks to the friends.
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Ophelia
Welcome to the forum. You are not the only one who has wondered about the new thirty minute talk arrangement.
What this may accomplish is to remove any experiences or local application that made a livelier, more interesting talk. It will become largely a manuscript. One may hear the same words over and over as the talk is given again and again.
Many are concerned, as are many that wonder about the new "members only" watchtower arrangement due in January. One for the public and one for the ones on the "inside" seems to many to be strange. Have your father and brother made any comments about that?
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Help needed.
by KW13 ini always try and put a happy face on things, i am a happy person in many ways - i have a wife i love and a son on the way who i cant wait to meet but all the time something is wrong.. i suffer from depression and from time to time it gets me down and when i say down i mean down, maybe it was because i was at a really impressionable age but i became a jehovahs witness i found so much comfort in being in a giant bubble - i only appreciated some of the positive aspects of being a witness after leaving.
i was told i'd not see the end of high school cos i'd be in a paradise, that i'd be a young boy leading animals etc and the simple fact is, the thought of death itself frightens me.. i find it hard to fit in the world properly, like a square where a circle should go.
i stick out really badly in most situations, people detect always there is something 'different about me' despite my best efforts to hide it.. my coping mechanisms make me angry, frustrated and tired at the best of times and i just want to complete stage 2 of escape this cult.
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Quandry
Well, that was a small reply, wasn't it? I accidentally hit the enter button.
What I wanted to say was, give yourself a bit of time. Be patient. You are going through alot of upheaval right now, with a child on the way and adjusting to life outside of the WTS. We all have a hard time adjusting.
Hopefully, soon, you can get a job, because that will help you to feel an accomplishment for yourself and your new family.
In addition to the therapy, maybe go to the library and get some good books. Take walks with your wife. Get out and see flowers and birds. Can you take some classes to go forward with your education? Sometimes there are government aids available to go to school. Get involved in some worthwhile things to occupy your mind.
You can do it. We're rooting for you.
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Help needed.
by KW13 ini always try and put a happy face on things, i am a happy person in many ways - i have a wife i love and a son on the way who i cant wait to meet but all the time something is wrong.. i suffer from depression and from time to time it gets me down and when i say down i mean down, maybe it was because i was at a really impressionable age but i became a jehovahs witness i found so much comfort in being in a giant bubble - i only appreciated some of the positive aspects of being a witness after leaving.
i was told i'd not see the end of high school cos i'd be in a paradise, that i'd be a young boy leading animals etc and the simple fact is, the thought of death itself frightens me.. i find it hard to fit in the world properly, like a square where a circle should go.
i stick out really badly in most situations, people detect always there is something 'different about me' despite my best efforts to hide it.. my coping mechanisms make me angry, frustrated and tired at the best of times and i just want to complete stage 2 of escape this cult.
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Gratitude for shunning?
by JK666 inwe have all seen the negatine aspects of the jw's shunning da/df people.
i have experienced the hardship emotionally of being cut off from friends and family that are still in the organization.
i do not minimize how much this hurts.. but .
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My husband and I were told that we were "causing divisions" by not being "friends" with men who told my sixteen year old daughter that she was filth in God's eyes and would burn in the fire with the devil and his angels at Armageddon.
With "friends" like them, who needs enemies?
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You Must Push, Push, Push To Accomplish More, More, More
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial; font-size: 18px; color: #000099; } .style2 { font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; color: #000099; } .style3 { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; } .style4 {font-family: arial; font-size: 12px; } .style5 {font-size: 12px} .style6 {font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; } --> you must push, push, push to accomplish more, more, moreone of the major reasons in leaving the organization was the pressure exerted on the individual.
in the congregation.
it always seemed as if your best was never good enough and more could .
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having 4 kids and part time jobs and still being able to dedicate 90 hrs a month to Jehovah.
Yes, these kinds of things used to get me, even when a dub. I would think, how can a mother really enjoy her children, keep her home clean, read to the kids, and have any rest if she works part time, and pioneers? I always thought of the children wanting mom's love and attention but mom was too busy knocking on doors of others.
When I was young and before I had a child, there was a pioneer who would drag her kids out in service. One was on her back in a carrier, and the others by the hand. They had no TV as that would take time away from spiritual things. Never had money. I wonder how the poor father is doing now. He was cleaning floors at night and looked tired then. That was 15 years ago at least.
These things are said by men who have no children and do not know the need for a mother's attention that a child has.
When the kids are grown she will look back and wish she had spent more time with them.
Guilt? Yeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss!!!!!!!
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I know it's only a discussion forum...
by nvrgnbk inbut how has having a place like jwd improved your life?.
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Quandry
Wow, is it a discussion forum for you!! You've made over 5,000 posts since you joined in February
I'd have to join those who say they learned alot on this forum. I had already left the WT world, but I would never have found out about the UN thing if not on here.
I hope that I can be an encouragement to others who are newly joining, also.
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I had no idea there were people who felt like me
by Orgull ini've recently begun challenging my beliefs.
all my beliefs, including those ingrained in me as one raised "in the truth".. a few years ago i sought therapy for chronic depression and my treatment was remarkably successful.
as a side effect, things that used to "work" for me no longer fit with the new emotional pathways and strengths i was developing.
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Quandry
I am daring to post. I wonder how many people out there "in the truth" feel the same way but would never dare to post or even visit a place like this.
From your post and many others, I'd say the numbers are groooooowwwwinnggg every day!
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