Quandry

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  Years and Years ago my daughter wanted to be a model

  by MsMcDucket in

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  me with her when she was in kindergarten.

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  Quandry

  Your daughter has a beautiful smile. I hope she is a happy person.
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  Spiritual Meaning of Watchtower Legal Defeats

  by metatron in

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  2. scandals

  over 60 years ago, the watchtower society assembled a remarkable record of hard fought legal victories that had the .

  long term effect of carving out a protected niche for themselves.

  they were enabled to create many decades of .

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  bavman- I think you are right. How would the average witness be privy to the news that the WT is losing court cases? They certainly are not going to see the highlights in any Watchtower. They are thus not able to "Keep on the watch."

  I know that until I looked at "forbidden" web sites, I would never have realized it. The blinders keep you from looking either to the left or to the right.
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  My DF'd brother will never go back!

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some years ago my brother was disfellowshipped.

  not for apostasy, but for more mundane reasons.

  he has not had the internet, he has not studied the bible much since being disfellowshipped, he has been feeling guilty and considering returning for the last six months.. i had no way of contacting him, having lost touch in the midst of his many moves.

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  Quandry

  How wonderful to again have a family relationship with your brother!!!
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  I'm so disappointed with myself!!

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  2. friends

  trev and i both gave up smoking around a month ago.

  we didn't tell many people, hoping that would stop those of our friends who smoke from offerring us a cigarrette.

  trev has been meaning to quit for a while, and i joined him when he made the attempt to support him.

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  I used to smoke-gave it up to become a witness. Didn't want to be a slave to tobacco. Still don't. It is very expensive. I wish you could take the money you spend on this habit and enjoy a vacation with the money you will spend on it in a year.

  It is NOT GOOD FOR YOU. I saw my dad gasping for air before he died. It was horrible. It makes your skin wrinkle prematurely.

  Also, think of the money you are donating to this company that makes a product that sickens people and causes them to die.

  Just a few thoughts. You CAN QUIT. Don't give up. You are stronger than you think. Recall the many accomplishments you have made in life. Think of the accomplishments you still can make in the future. You are worth more than that roll of nicotine.

  Hope you'll keep trying. YOU CAN DO IT!!!
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  Were the "Annointed" that got disfellowshipped still "Annointed"??????

  by mama1119 in

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  2. friends

  when i was a teenager we had these two annointeds in our hall, man and woman, very very gung-ho elder, pioneer type.

  well, they had an affair for many years and then got df...i always wondered, if god chose them to be annointed, did he now reject them.....or did they just take a break, because as soon as they got reinstats they were partaking again?????

  what was the official stance on that???

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  Quandry

  Dear "Mama"

  I have wondered this-how were two people in your hall annointed when you were a teenager and you don't seem to be that old? Were they really old, old people? If so, they were having an affair?( eeuuuuwww-the picture that this conjures) If they were not old, how were they annointed? I know that I read many years ago that by 1935 all the annointed were chosen so after that there would be only a very few replacements needed. Then, later, I read that if any replacements were necessary, it was logical that only those who had been faithful many years (hence, old) would be chosen to replace the ones that fell away.

  When I was fairly new to the Org., there was a young woman in the Hall I attended. She was newly married. I mean in her twenties-and professed to be of the annointed. This was over twenty years ago. I remember wondering about it. Of course, I never asked anyone as this would be questioning, and I didn't dare to do that.

  In addition, I have gone back to your first posts to get to know more about you. I read that after you were df'd, you met with the elders at least about twelve times and they just kept bringing up what you did to try to make you feel as bad about yourself as they possibly could but still no reinstatement.

  I want you to know that I felt so bad at reading your story. Of all the things, new generation, UN scandal, etc. I could take it all and perhaps remain in the org., but it's the stories like these that did me in. How could these people be the imitation of a loving head of the congregation, Jesus? He never treated people like this.

  In our lives we are confronted with so much adversity and sadness. For people to say they are loving shepherds and then beat the flock in such a way-they are filled with self-righteousness. They are without pity or kindness. They were so happy with themselves after treating you in such a humiliating way. It is my fervent hope that they are judged with the same mercy they showed to you.

  It seems that your parents do not shun you. I am happy for that.

  I hope after some time has passed that you are able to see the value that you have as a person. May all of us who were treated so badly by those who were meant to upbuild and comfort know that we still can make a difference in the lives of others and treat others in a kinder way, thereby making their day a little brighter.

  Glad to know you.
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  Mama's Boys

  by Thegoodgirl in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  question: are you dealing with a mama's boy?.

  i am afraid i am.

  my hubby is on the phone with this parents (actually mostly his dad) for about an hour each night.

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  I will offer a different perspective. My husband's mom died when he was fourteen. How he wishes he could have her to talk to. His dad hardly called at all because we were witnesses. My parents were rather distant from us because we were witnesses. Now we are older. How I wish my husband could have such a good relationship with his father that they wanted to talk to each other daily. I would try to make some compromise about the food. People are more important.

  My own father is now dead. What a treat it would be for me to hear his voice one more time. My mother calls once a week. I try always to be home on that night. If there is something I want to watch on tv I tape it. We talk a long time. I try to get everything set before the time she calls. My family is understanding.

  I respect a man who cares for his family. While I agree that some seem to overdo it, your problems could be alot worse.

  Listen to all the posters whose entire family shun them. Wouldn't they love to have a parent who loves them enough to call daily?

  Just a different perspective-sometimes its all in the attitude toward something.
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  How to leave Jehovah's Witnesses (fairly) painlessly...

  by DubBeachBabe in

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  2. friends

  posted this as a response on another thread, but i know there are people who want this as a new discussion.

  i'm sure there are many good people watching these discussions who know you want to leave, but also know that this is what may await you - family alienation and pain.

  if you haven't already overtly left, my advice to you is this: don't succumb to the disfellowshipping process.

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  Welcome, Wonderwoman-I like a woman who takes charge. But in this case, it might be--if it isn't broken, don't fix it. Seems you are in a pretty comfortable position right now. Your sister seems to be reasonable, but if pushed, she would have some hard choices to make. Something to think about.
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  My promised whining thread...

  by james_woods in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just got back from family court last wednesday.. my mother aged 81 (an ex jw by the way) has an advanced case of altzheimers.

  she still knows us and can converse with you, but is becoming increasingly irrational because of the dementia inherent in this disease.

  she had been wandering off from her house and getting caught just walking down the street in 5:00 traffic several times in recent months.

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  Quandry

  Go ahead and whine. You've been through a bad time. As much as we all need family, it's a shame your sister has chosen to do this to you, and to her mother. One day she'll need someone, and I'll bet she'll be calling on you for help.

  The good thing is, your mom will now be cared for properly. She is in a place where she will be watched over, so something awful will not happen to her. Hope this alleviates some of your worry.
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  The real impact of "apostate" sites

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a recent discussion with a couple of district overseers and other heavies , the topic of the internet and apostate sites came up.

  i asked what impact these were making , numerically , among jws.

  the prevailing view was that , numerically , there was negligible impact.

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  “The brothers are just not inclined to look up apostate sites - they just aren‘t interested.”

  I was out of town for a few days and just saw this post. I had to reply. The mere fact that this post was viewed over 1,000 times and that there are so many sites when one looks up witnesses or Jehovah on the web is mind-bogling.

  Someone mentioned that many witnesses just aren't interested in the history of the organization --not so. Many are just afraid to say that they are interested. Fear is a controlling factor.

  I remember being out in service a few years ago and a householder told me that the WT wanted to destroy older literature and didn't want people to read it. Of course, I defended the WT, but it always stayed with me.

  Later, when things changed with the generation explanation, I thought about the doubts I had. I was afraid to voice my doubts out loud even to my husband. I knew that when I had looked up the WT official web site, I saw all the other "unofficial" ones. I began to wonder why there would be so many against the WT. I had never imagined so many people would be so determined to make websites against the WT.

  I'll bet others' curiosity has been aroused by viewing all the web sites and their titles. I'll bet many are reading and just afraid, so afraid......
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  Any Dubs in your Hall that were puportedly "Demonized"?

  by Sailor Ripley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had a whole family that moved into our congo when i was about 10. they had kids from 6 to 16-years-old.

  there was always talk of their beds spinning and shoes floating, et cetera.

  they lived in a literal shack so i didn't want to go there to spend the night, but i always wanted to go and "check it out" to see some fireworks.

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  Quandry

  monkeyshine- thanks for the reeeeaaaallly good laugh!!!!!! At least the dog and cat were discerning enough to send the witnesses away!!!!