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  UN/WTS SCANDAL IN USA NEWSPAPER

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  after much hard work a certain person has finally got the story published through a letter to the editor in the san bernardino sun.

  you will find the article in the november 28, 2001 edition of the newspaper in the "opinion" section.

  note the voice of the people section.

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  detective

  Hi people.
  I'm thinking that now might be a good time to once again note resources that have been contacted at least once about this issue. If you have a release or statement, please feel free to make use of these resources as the squeaky wheel syndrome might do us some good. The UN responded because they were inundated with contacts from interested parties (and Hawk, of course). I can only assume we're going to have to light a fire under one of these reporters by multiple contacts by many different people.

  Christian Science Monitor:
  Send the release to " [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>" and direct it to the attention of David Cook, Editor
  617.450.7034

  Associated press:
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>
  fax 212 621 7520

  Boston Phoenix:
  Please send letters to the editor, press releases, and article
  commentary to [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  The Boston Globe:
  "news tip from extranet" should be your email header.
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  For the Boston Herald:
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>
  Tips or comments call
  (617) 619-6789

  Newstips for The Cincinnati Post:
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  Religion at the Cincinati Post:
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  Kentucky Post (news tips):
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  The Columbus Disptach, Religion editor:
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  Managing editor of the Crescent News in Defiance, Ohio
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>

  The KentuckyNew Era
  [email protected] <mailto: [email protected]>
  FAX 270-887-3222

  These are the people Catholic Guy faxed:
  LA Times 213-237-5000
  FAX: 213-237-4712

  NY Times 212-556-1234
  FAX: 212-556-3690

  NY Daily News 212-210-2100
  FAX: 212-643-7831

  NY Post 212-930-8500
  FAX: 212-930-8540

  Pittsburg Post Gazette 412-263-1100
  FAX: 412-391-8452

  Chicago Tribune 312-222-3232
  FAX: 312-222-2598

  Washington Post 202-334-6000
  FAX: 202-496-3883

  Brooklyn Heights Press (Brooklyn Eagle):
  718-858-2300
  FAX: 718-858-4483
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  10 REASONS WHY JWS STAY IN THE TOWER

  by Victor_E in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.

  transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.

  in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.

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  I have to throw my support in for the significance of loaded language with JWs. When I was having a talk with my witness friend I would interupt him every now and again to ask him to come up with another word instead of the one he was using ("imperfect" being the word he kept bringing up- I wonder why!!) When I asked him to use a different word instead it would momentarily stump him and you could actually detect a change from cult persona to individual persona while he struggled to come up with his own terminology. It was pretty amazing to watch. I can't say this enough...loaded language is a big deal! If you want to interupt a cult members foray into the fog, getting them to change their language, even momentarily, will be a good way to disengage their cult persona. I realize this sounds fairly dramatic but sitting back and watching the result of interupting their loaded language really hit home to me how important the cult lingo is in keeping people indoctrinated.
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  Press release: WT human rights violation

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello randy,.

  the human rights organization i am affiliated is sending out this press release on human rights violation by the jehovah's witnesses.

  it cites several united nation human rights documents.---john brown.

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  Blue asked "...how did this cult which violates the most basic human rights of its followers get past the NGO accreditation process so easily? Hmmmmm."
  I noticed on the global policy site that Hawk listed that the Moonies have also passed four different splinter groups off as NGOs. I don't know who put the global policy site up, nor do I have the link at the moment, but clearly the UN isn't doing a bang up job of screening it's NGOs. Worse case scenario, we could consider exploiting that angle in our attempts to stir up the media. It's a bit of dirty pool, but I'm beginning to lose my patience with the thought of the United Nations reps caring only about saving face. Ah, maybe I'm just having a Monday attitude. But it's an angle.
  As for John's release, a good editing should help bring it into focus. I can definitely relate to needing a solid editor to step in and help me out! I'm not entirely sure what the main grievance is, nor am I sure what the main goal is, but with a little paring here and there it should really take a nice shape.
  John's efforts should be applauded. When you've got many a concern about it can be hard to pick just a few points to put out there. Good luck with this, John. Don't underestimate the power of your outrage and your desire to be heard. If enough people keep yelling somebody is going to hear! Thanks for adding another voice! Where are you going to send this?
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  No Tipping Hats to Women!

  by ISP in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just noticed the thread with the lady sporting a panama so i thought it might be as well to reconsider hatiquette...er hat etiquette wts style............ *** w52 4/15 254-5 questions from readers ***.

  questions from readers.

  &#61683; is it proper for men to tip their hats to women?g.

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  I'm wondering if they've since had any new light on hat tipping practices. Would tipping one's hat warrant a public or private reproof? I wonder.
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  Who are the real, meaningful campaigners here?

  by Celtic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the people vs the organisation of the wtbts.

  who are you specificly?

  what would you like to see accomplished in the short, medium and long term strategic planning?.

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  I assume you are asking us what we are really doing to help educate people in general about concerns with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and the countless people who have suffered needlessly due to this so called religion.

  Who am I?
  Something like nobody only not like that all (sort of).

  I had a goal in a personal situation that has since been lost to me.

  On a larger scale, I have tried to contribute to publicizing the United Nations scandal by contacting a variety of newspapers. Sadly, that has not been particularly successful either. However, I will probably continue to contribute in that manner as much as I possibly can.

  I have no idea if I should hold out hope for either situation.
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  UN/WTS SCANDAL IN USA NEWSPAPER

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  after much hard work a certain person has finally got the story published through a letter to the editor in the san bernardino sun.

  you will find the article in the november 28, 2001 edition of the newspaper in the "opinion" section.

  note the voice of the people section.

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  Wonderful!!

  I can't begin to express my gratitude towards those who made it happen. This is much needed good news.

  If there is a clickable link to the article that would be great. If not, I'd love to somehow get a copy if anyone knows how.

  Thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!
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  Watchtower "Newspeak" Self Defeating

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in our search to understand the true nature of the watchtower,.

  it is likely that many of us consulted orwell's "1984".. in that book, one important component of big brother's rule is the.

  use of "newspeak".

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  I'm re-reading 1984 right now. Interestingly, one of the characters is a high powered party member who gets "broken" and confesses to all sorts of crimes before being permanently erased. His name...Rutherford.
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  Get an investigation at UN started?

  by CatholicGuy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you think the un would begin an investigation if enough of us wrote them to ask for it?

  (letters would be better than email for this, i think.

  ) perhaps to the secretariat office or the ambassador from the country you reside in?

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  Whoa Nassau, that's pretty telling! The bottom line is that the UN has been embarassed by the scandal. In my opinion the only way to really inspire any action on their part is to go through the press. They don't want this to be known so they will do anything they can to squash it. They were made fools by the organization. The UN hasn't really felt the sting of it yet which is why I think we should try to Lone Wolf's idea of targeting a few editors and heavily emailing/writing/faxing them.
  That said, I would still be willing to write to the UN to request an investigation. I don't consider it any greater waste of my time than sitting around doing nothing and saying "the Watchtower wins again".
  Any word on any press interest from anybody? Apparently my efforts have come up empty. I'll re-post the email addresses for anyone interested in trying those resources again.
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  Hmmm........on "Third Watch"

  by Mulan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if that was already posted yesterday, i apologize.

  i've been too busy to be here much.. i watched the tv show, third watch on monday night.

  the paramedics went to an apartment of an elderly woman who was having heart failure.

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  Hmmm, now that's some serious product placement. The Watchtower must have outbid pepsi! Finally the tower is getting savvy and figured out how to really sell a product!
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  HAWK! Letter to the Editor: Need Feed-back ASAP

  by bluesapphire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please provide feed-back on the following letter.

  i will be sending it to various newspapers in my area on monday.

  thanks.. letter to the editor of.

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  I love you, Blue and Hawk. You brought me hope today.