Yes, it's so sad that the clergy only offered bottled water and not oodles of scriptures. Shame on them for putting their religious agendas on the backburner and just helping out fellow human beings. On a side note, I wonder why the witnesses didn't mention the death toll God will inflict at Armageddon. Isn't that considered comforting enough? Oh yes, anything to further the preaching work. Anything at all...
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Onslow family loses JW daughter in attack .
by nicolaou infriday, september 28, 2001 .
onslow family loses daughter in attack.
jacksonville high grad worked on 102nd floor of world trade center .
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I need your advice
by cecil ini need your advice: i have written a letter to my branch office regarding my problems with the 607-chronology 60+ pages with short references about the issue, that i have collected through the past 9-10 years.
at the end of my letter i asked 14 questions 7 questions regarding the biblical evidence against the 607 bce-chronology and 7 questions regarding the historical and astronomical evidence against it.. the letter i received as an answer did not contain anything that could qualify as an answer or even an attempt to answer my questions.
i called the branch office by phone and talked to the brother who had written the answer.
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Mailmum,
Cutting and pasting responses greatly reduces your witnessing time. It would be better if you could address each thread individually. This will maiximize the time that you can count.
Remember, you're not just cheating yourself out of valuable time, you're cheating Jehovah. Isn't love for Jah worth more than the quick fix cut and paste? -
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Nov. 8 Awake - Wife Beaters-Sick
by MrMoe ini will let you all hang who ever the heck wrote this crap.
november 8, 2001 awake page 9: some battered women may need to seek assistance from the authorities.
at times, a point of crisis-such as intervention of the police-can cause an abusive man to see the seriousness of the action.. page 12: should the battered wife leave her husband?
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Risk Indicators (page 7 November 8, 2001 AWAKE
1. The man has previous involvement with domestic violence
~~Would this be something he mentions during the group outings or should he wait until they are on a chaperoned date before mentioning this?
2. He is out of work.
~~And, if he grew up in the trooth he's under-educated. That doesn't bode well for hasty re-employment.
3. He uses illegal drugs at least once a year~~Week long drug binges every year and a half don't qualify as a risk indicator. But does he smoke???
4. When he lived at home, he saw his father hit his mother.
5. The couple are not married, they cohabit.
~~Don't shack up. What do you expect but beatings when you act like a whore? Luckily, to avoid injury you can just wave that magical piece of paper otherwise known as a marriage license. Yup, that'll save you.
6. If employed, he has a low-paying job.
7. He did not graduate from high-school.~~People who are discouraged from going to college don't usually don't earn the big bucks. Even better when they drop out of high school to put Jehovah ahead of worldly pursuits.
9. One or both use violence toward children in the home.
~~Does emotional abuse count as violence?
10. Income is below poverty level.
~~Pioneering doesn't put food on the table.
11. The man and woman are from different cultural background
~~misogyny and bigotry! What will they think of next?
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'Fess up! Who's messing with the Great Crowd?
by detective innaughty, naughty.
it's not like some witnesses come to ex-jw boards and start trouble!
from greatcrowd:.
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Naughty, naughty. It's not like some witnesses come to ex-jw boards and start trouble! Well... nevermind.
From Greatcrowd:
Please do not open any e-mail from unknown senders. SOMEONE named Baitzer is blitzing our e-mails at GC. Use your common sense and do not debate with False Religion. That is not the purpose of Greatcrowd.
Just delete any incoming mail from unknown persons. These e-mail addys here at Greatcrowd are for Members Only. Anyone infringing on these rights are rude and arrogant.Thank you, Admin. Greatcrowd.com, Meekasu
Hi Meeka...
I got one from this Robin person, but didn't open it except to see where she had the audacity to refer to herself as one of "us"...sent her an email back and asked her to desist from sending email to me since they would be immediately deleted... and to read Acts 5:39...then I deleted it! Such a pity, someone has nothing better to do than try and poison persons of true faith with apsotate garbage! Philia love to all you true servants of Jehovah! Thanks for the heads up, sis!
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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS
by MacHislopp infollowing the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
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Hawk,
I was surprised that my friend seemed unmoved by what I said about the united nations. I guess I probably threw him for a lopp in lots of ways because I gave him a mini-intervention with lots of information. I talked about things he knew nothing about- organ transplants, shunning policies, Malawi and Mexico, old prophets returning. I really stressed the United Nations issue. I asked him why he thought it was okay but I think he was still reeling from the new insights I offered him. He's definitely using the "it's okay to lie to further preaching work" but perhaps he didn't really get the implications. All I can do is hope that somehow, some way, he'll get the larger picture. I did slip once when I asked him if it wasn't a bit sleazy to smear other religions for the exact same thing his religion is doing but he just kept talking about how it's okay to lie...
Funny thing is, he mentioned tax avoidance. I guess it's okay to lie and cheat for "truth".
Please, please, please...please let him figure this out! My best friend is gone. Please let me keep believing it was worth it.
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My JW Mothers' Words Of "Love"
by Ranchette inwell, i just received a letter from my mom and i dont know how to describe my feelings at this time.
i thought id share parts of it with you and see what yall think.
i will delete names and add my own words in parenthesis to describe whom shes talking about.. after a few lines of small talk she says this..........i do want to tell you, since (you and your husband) have rejected the truth, i am so glad (your son) is not old enough to join or be drafted into the military.
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That is really sad. What more can I say? It's just sad. I'm sorry you got that "love" letter. It was cruel and unnecessary.
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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS
by MacHislopp infollowing the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
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Okay, I'll tell you what happened when I brought up this very subject with my friend who is a r&f dub. I asked my friend repeatedly about this united nations issue. In short, I got the "the bible says it's okay to lie" and the "anything to further the preaching work" lines. I asked him why it was okay to point fingers at other groups while doing the same thing but he didn't have any answer. Did he really believe the line he was giving me? Doubtful. I figure I'll leave him with it and see if the wheels start turning. I might have planted the seeds but I think I also lost my friend in the process. Damn, sometimes being right just sucks.
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Of dinosaurs and babies
by Moxy ini had mistakenly made a comment about the flood picture in the original edition of the bible story book showing a dinosaur.
after i made it, i remembered that it wasnt another edition of the book, but another instance of the same pic in another publication, the enjoy life brochure.
lets compare and discuss:.
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I believe the small picture of the dinosaur in the distance is none other than the famous "Nessie". Maybe they'll throw big foot into some future drawings?
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Come pray with me
by detective inas i occasionally do, i decided to take a walk on the wild side and visit greatcrowd.com.
the usual nightmare- lots of squishy, appreciate your magazines and joyful pioneering testimonies.
the disturbing reminder of how the 9/11 tragedies make for good witnessing- all that typical banter.. i came across this, though and wanted to post it.
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As I occasionally do, I decided to take a walk on the wild side and visit Greatcrowd.com
The usual nightmare- lots of squishy, appreciate your magazines and joyful pioneering testimonies. The disturbing reminder of how the 9/11 tragedies make for good witnessing- all that typical banter.
I came across this, though and wanted to post it. To be fair, the sister mentioned that the householder appeared drunk though her partner-in-crime at the door didn't notice. It sucks to pray with a drunk one. That was the problem, right? That he was drunk?Feel the love:
"With the mention of the tragedy he suddenly wanted to join hands and pray right there on the sidewalk in front of his home.
The brother kept glancing at me (I just kept smiling and thinking how to get out of it tactfully) and said he did not mind praying
but did the man know who we pray to? and through whom?... The man said yes and kept insisting we pray with him wanting to link hands and taking my wrist when I did not offer my hand. When the brother still did not begin to pray the man offered to do it and the brother immediately said no no he would do it.
Finally I mentioned I would be returning to get his opinion on the article, and we were in a group we needed to keep up with and on the sidewalk wasn't such a good place for prayer. (I really wanted to say how about sobering up first)"How sweet.
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My New Childrens Book - First Chapter
by Naeblis injack was his name and killing puppies was his game.
he was the best god damned puppy killer around, and folks in them here parts knew he always did good work.
"got too many puppies," the old man drawled, "don't wants to kill them but what can be done?".
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It's good so far. I'm not reaaly getting to know Jack or the puppies however. A little more character development might work to increase the emotional impact. Maybe you could describe the puppies- are they furry with big brown eyes? Floppy ears. Yelping could do wonders in bringing a gentle tear to the eye!
Over all a great read. That and the borg books as bedtime stories and your kids will be so fucked up, they might end up normal.