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PrimateDave
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Take the Quiz - Which Star Trek Character Are You?
by Alleymom inmy family's been having a lot of fun with this!
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http://www.seabreezecomputers.com/startrek.
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PrimateDave
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Nintendo Wii
by jrjr4189 inhas anybody been lucky enough to get a wii.
i had one reserved at toys r us and picked up on launch day.
it is a lot of fun.
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PrimateDave
I'm a big fan of the Legend of Zelda ever since the Ocarina of Time came out for Nintendo64. That said, I'll still probably wait for the next Metroid to come out and get the Wii with LoZ:Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 all at once. Then again, there is the chance that I'll just get LoZ:Twilight Princess for my Gamecube and skip the Wii for a while.
I have been playing "Okami" for my PS2. It's been lots of fun.
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.....another Watchtower contradiction.
by gumby infar be it from the jehovah's witnesses to talk out of both sides of their mouth.. far be it from jehovah's witnesses to doublespeak.. below is a perfect example of how gods chosen channel of truth has evidently forgotten what they previously stated in the "watchtower" which is their gods own publication for dispensing bible based truths to mankind.. .
"at times explanations given by jehovah's visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view.
but this has not actually been the case.
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PrimateDave
Yo, Gumbster!
I think you have a problem with a critical spirit. You need to go and confess to the elders so that their prayers can save you from Jehovah's wrath. Yeah, there's some scripture in Micah or the Hebrew Scriptures that talks about Jehovah's wrath, but I can't remember where it's at 'cause I haven't been to the meetings lately. (Yeah, some scripture in Hebrews about not forsaking attending meetings or something.)
So, you think you found a contradiction? So, what! Don't you know it is a sign of being an apostate to compare older Watchtower literature with newer Watchtower literature? Don't you know Jehovah hates apostates more than artificial cool-ranch flavoring? You are supposed to forget about the older point of view expressed by the writing department as soon as the 'new light' begins to shine forth from the hallowed pages of the Watchtower. It's like changing the light bulbs in your home. When the old one burns out, you put a new one in, therefore, 'new light'! See how easy it is? Now go to your nearest elder and confess! LOL!
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Should Uninvited D to D Work of Jehovah's Witnesses be against the Law?
by frankiespeakin ini agree that everyone should have the right to practice thier own religion, as long as it doesn't interfere with another person right to privacy and right to not be harassed in their own home by those who feel they have the better religion.. the door to door work of jws is harassment, when you consider that they call for the most part in the morning, univited to talk about why there religion is the right one and often have very bad things to say about other belief systems, which has the potential of disturbing the peace.
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PrimateDave
I haven't read all of the replies to this, so maybe this point has been addressed by now. If someone, anyone desires to speak publicly about their religious beliefs, then they have that right and freedom that is above any law of man.
If, however, a person is representing a corporate entity like the WTBTS in an organized commercial enterprise as a public relations worker, whether by leaving literature bearing the name of said corporation or by collecting donations to support said corporation, then one is conducting business and should be regulated by the appropriate authorities. I cannot see something like this being "against the law" so much as it should be "under the law", regulated by statute.
So, now that I am out, I see the whining of the Watchtower corporation for what it really is. It is not about the freedom of religion or the freedom of speech. All they really care about is money.
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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PrimateDave
Why, thank you, Cellist! :) I don't get on the 'net every day, so I just now had a chance to read your comment. You know, sometimes the words flow, and sometimes they don't! I guess we all have our moments. LOL!
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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PrimateDave
"God. Either he exists or he doesn't."
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Origins of YHWH
by I.Wonder ini think this has been discussed before.
if anyone could provide some links that would be great.. i tried the "google" search and didn't come up with anything.
i am terrible at doing searches.. thank you,.
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PrimateDave
Thanks, Behemot. Downloaded the whole thing. Looks very interesting.
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Sneak Peek at the Revised "New World Translation"!!!
by gordon d ini was lucky enough to have a friend at bethel sneak me an early release copy of the new, revised edition of the new world translation that is scheduled for release at next springs district conventions.
obviously, i havent been able to read all of it yet but i did glance through it and found some of the subtle changes that the fds has seen as important revisions.
here are some of the more notable ones in our new bible: .
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PrimateDave
Hi Gordon!
I, too, have been reading the RNWT! I was most impressed by the following scripture (available on the Watchtower Library CD-ROM 2007):
(Matthew 24:45-47) 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings and real estate in Brooklyn, New York.
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Questions...
by Aequitus indo jehovah's witnesses believe that the earth is 6000 years old, or 4.5 billion?
and if adam and eve were the first people on the earth, how would the multitude of races come about from the inbreeding of adam and eve's children?
and during this time, people became wildly dispersed across the planet and adopted various other religions.
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PrimateDave
Aequitus said: "I believe in the year 1AD there were 1 million people on the earth..."
I believe that figure to be incorrect; the actual population would have exceeded 100 million around 2000 years ago. Perhaps someone has a reference to a plausible estimate.
If you are amazed by the overall fertility of mankind in the space of a few thousand years, however, you should consider another case from the "inspired" record. According to Acts 7:14, seventy-five souls went down into Egypt. Genesis 46:26, 27 states that seventy souls went down into Egypt. Yet apparently not long after Joseph died, "there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we" (Ex. 1:6-9)
According to "inspiration" the Israelites were in Egypt for 430 years, or maybe for just 215 years. (Exodus 12:40 or Gen. 15:16)
"Assuming that all the 55 male descendants of Jacob who came into Egypt married ..., the Hebrew population in Egypt would naturally augment in about the following manner: The first generation (offspring of the twelve) that came into Egypt was 55 males; liberally allowing five male children each, the second generation, sprung from these, would number 275; the third generation, offspring of the second, would number 1375; the fateful 'fourth generation,' that of Moses and the exodus, would reach the sum total of 6875 male persons.
"The inspired record, after relating the 'spoiling of the Egyptians' by the Chosen says: 'And the Children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about 600,000 on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle' (Ex. 12:37, 38)!
"Only about a year later (Num. 1: 1), at Sinai, the formal census of this warrior host was taken, of every male 'from 20 years old and upwards, all that were able to go forth to war in Israel; even all that were numbered were 603,550' (Num. 1: 45, 46)! Even in this host the Levites were not numbered (1: 47); when afterwards they were separately numbered, 'all the males from a month old and upward were 22,000' (Num. iii, 39). On the very conservative, and quite inadequate, basis of estimating these warrior-males to be but one out of every four of the old men, women, and children, we should have a Hebrew population of 2,414,200 souls, not counting in the 22,000 Levites and the great mixed multitude of slaves and camp-followers who accompanied the hosts of Yahveh. The Jewish Encyclopedia and most accepted authorities estimate the total numbers of the exodus to be about 3,000,000!"
Quoted from Is It God's Word? by Joseph Wheless
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Origins of YHWH
by I.Wonder ini think this has been discussed before.
if anyone could provide some links that would be great.. i tried the "google" search and didn't come up with anything.
i am terrible at doing searches.. thank you,.
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PrimateDave
Hey Ian, that's some great stuff! I have read similar information at infidels.org (Is It God's Word? by Joseph Wheless).
And where is God's throne?
The Shape Of The Earth
"In Science To The Rescue, we learned of several supporting examples for how the ancient Hebrews commonly believed that a solid firmament, separating the sky ocean from the land ocean, covered the earth. Within the proposed firmament are the sun, moon, and stars. The throne of God could potentially be found on top of the earth’s [sky] dome. When a group of people tried to ascend into Heaven by building a tower, God confused them to cease its construction because he was afraid of people seeing him.
"[T]here’s a singular instance found in Isaiah that Christians often flaunt to promote an imagined harmony between the Bible and the true configuration of the earth. All the while, previously mentioned scriptures authored by Isaiah and his colleagues go completely ignored. Isaiah 40:22 says, “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.” The word in question here is “circle.” A circle is a flat two-dimensional object, while a sphere, the approximate shape of the earth, is a three-dimensional object. The original Hebrew term used in this verse is chug, meaning circle. The same word is used twice in the book of Job to describe Heaven and the sea, two areas that we have no reason to believe anyone ever considered spherical. Furthermore, Isaiah does not use the actual Hebrew word for sphere, kadur, in 40:22 even though this utilization would have been much more appropriate if Isaiah intended to convey a spherical planet. In addition to this logical analysis of the verse, historians have long determined that a disc-shaped earth was a popular belief not only in the Middle East, but also in Greece before the time of Aristotle. We even have ancient maps of Babylon and Egypt containing illustrations of a circular sea surrounding circular land. When you combine this tangible evidence with other biblical comments regarding the shape of the earth, the likelihood of Isaiah 40:22 referring to a sphere is extremely remote."
From Biblical Nonsense by Dr. Jason Long (http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/)