WOW!!!!!!
I really hope this is a stepping stone to stomping the horrible practice of shunning.
today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.
as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.
the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.
WOW!!!!!!
I really hope this is a stepping stone to stomping the horrible practice of shunning.
i was putting clothes in the dryer the other day and went to turn it on and it wouldn't start.
i couldn't figure out what was wrong since i had just taken some clothes out of the same dryer.
i looked down and noticed i hadn't closed the dryer door .
At the mall I forgot where I parked my car. Like an idiot I was walking around for 20 minutes looking for my car. The Security patrol car had to drive me around until I spotted my car. This was very embarrasing but according to the security guard, people do this all the time.
Devon
just wondering...last time a similar thread was posted, there were maybe...mmm...5 or 6 professed pagans on the board?.
it just seems, browsing through several threads, there is a disproportionate number of us here?
thoughts?.
I have been a practicing Witch and Pagan for 10 years.
Devon
joy2bfree's post on cults got me thinking.. was anyone else told that certain harmless things (harmless in my eyes) were satanic.. i know you have all mentioned smurfs, but i was also told that the 'my little pony' toys were demonic because they were designed by a wizard?????
did i really believe this rubbish - my daughter always wanted one but i wouldn't buy one for her cos i thought i would be inviting demons into my house - i feel really rotten now!.
also wind chimes (which i always wanted cos i love the sound), anything written by sir arthur conan doyle (and i love sherlock holmes and felt so deprived), the beatles, john denver - can't think of any more at the moment but there were quite a few.
If you ask the JW's in a Kingdom Hall near me they will tell you I'm demonized. I only went to one meeting with a friend, just to see what all the hoopla is and they treated me like I was Satan himself.
They knew I had been asking my friend too many questions prior to attending this meeting so there was no love bombing, just bleak stares.
Edited by - devonmcbride on 15 December 2002 17:24:3
this week on the radio, i heard that the jewish higherarchy is all full of piss and vinigar because the mormons apparently aren't holding up their end of a bargan reached several years ago.
seems that mormons believe that posthumus baptizing (i think it's just a verbal thing, i doubt they pour water over corpses) allows the individual the choice of chosing the right faith (theirs of course) after mortal death.
because of this belief, they were posthumusly baptizing jews who died in the holocost.
This baptism of the Jews shows disrespect toward the victims living families. How is this a nice gesture? I think other religions would get angry too.
Edited by - devonmcbride on 12 December 2002 19:40:34
i know that this subject has been talked about many times, but i am convinced that if the wts gets more fanatical, they will eventually ban witnesses from going on the internet.
yeah, i know it sounds goofy, but there are so many witnesses who are leaving as a result of what they have found on the net that the wts will have no choice, but to do it.
they will probably find some "new light" and probably sight some bible scripture.
If they did ban the net or convince JW's it's demonized, wouldn't they have to get rid of their web site?
wow, they have a lawyer that specializes in travel law.
i guess with the increasing consumer complaints against the airlines a travel lawyer would do well.. devon .
"i agree" could cost you your rights .
Wow, they have a lawyer that specializes in Travel Law. I guess with the increasing consumer complaints against the airlines a travel lawyer would do well.
Devon
"I Agree" Could Cost You Your Rights
By Mark Pestronk
A recent Travel Weekly editorial "Shakespeare Was Right", November 11, 2002 took note of the monsntrous, 3,500-word contract on American Airlines' web site, to which consumers are required to agree by clicking "I agree."
If travelers purchase tickets on American Airlines web site (www.aa.com), what rights are they surrendering b y clicking approval of the agreement?
Travelers are giving up all of their consumer rights. American appears to have made itself suit-proof by throwing in every disclaimer and exculpatory clause known to the law.
Here are some examples:
"American Airlines makes no representatives or warranties as to the content's completeness or accuracy."
This means that if American gives the traveler a reservation for a nonexistent flight, and the traveler misses an important business meeting, American has no legal responsibility.
"American Airlines makes no representations about the content's suitability for any purpose."
So is www.aa.com suitable for making reservations? Not according to American Airlines.
"In no event shall American or it's affiliates be liable for any damages...arising out of, or in any way connected with, the use of...the site."
If your trip (arising out of your use of www.aa.com) takes place on a plane that crashes, this language can be interpreted to bar recovery of any damages against American.
Do courts uphold such one-sided and oppressive contracts? This is really two questions.
First, do courts uphold click agreements even when it's obvious that no one reads them? The answer is yes, as long as th euser has a chance to read it and to abandon the transaction before the sale is made.
The second question is whether the courts uphold such anti-consumer contracts. The answer in many states, in contexts unrelated to air travel, would be no.
However, don't forget that federal law prohibits state courts from issuing any orders or rulings affecting airline services. So I am certain that no state court would strike down this agreement.
Only the U.S. Department of Transportation could tell the airlines to roll back the anti-consumer language, and it is highly unlikely that the DOT will act.
Is the oppressive click agreement yet another reason why consumers should use travel agencies? You bet it is.
Mark Prestronk is Fairfax, VA - based attorney specializing in travel law. To contact Mark directly, e-mail him at [email protected]
does anyone else do scrapbooking or card-making??
i took a class last night and enjoyed myself thoroughly.
i'm taking my daughters back to the shop this morning so they can make some of their own cards for their teachers and friends.
I have been scrapbooking for a while. I was at one time considering opening a scrapbook supply store in my area.
Devon
there is a pattern through history of empires building walls when they reached maximum expansion.
consider the great wall of china, the wall the romans built to keep out the goths, the berlin wall to preserve an island of communisim in germany.
walls save a lot of time and energy, as you don't have to have as many soldiers patrolling the line.
These gates can't protect them from their biggest nemesis....The Internet.
i have received a reply from the society regarding this issue.
sorry, no scanner but quoted below .there was just an introduction and concluding paragraph in addition to this :-.
"after looking into the matter when it was first raised, we found that none of the legal corporations used by the governing body in caring for the kingdom interests own stock in rand cam corporation or any associate company involved in developing the diesel engine in question.
I would love to hear what Rand Cam has to say since according to the Watchtower, they made the error. I am mailing my letter to them as soon as I can get a scanned copy of the WT letter.
CONTACT: Regi U.S., Inc.
John Robertson, President 604/278-5996
Fax 604/278-3409
[email protected]
Reg Technologies Inc.#120-3011 Viking Way
Richmond, British Columbia
Canada V6V 1W1
Tel: (604) 278-5996
1-800-661-6465
Fax: (604) 278-3409
[email protected]
Edited by - devonmcbride on 30 November 2002 22:18:50