How right you are,
If I post that elders are liars, usually someone says they are not.
If I posted elders don't lie that would be wrong,
perhaps I should write, 'most elders lie most of the time',
which they do!
fokyc
i think it's hilarious that when you post facts there is still always someone arguing it.. makes you want to stop bothering if people don't want to learn.. but then again my family has only been in the truth for 100 years so what would i know?.
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How right you are,
If I post that elders are liars, usually someone says they are not.
If I posted elders don't lie that would be wrong,
perhaps I should write, 'most elders lie most of the time',
which they do!
fokyc
My father used to sell his own knitting patterns to 'Paton & Baldwin's', that was in the early 30's
My sister in Tasmania still has a knitted jacket made by him to his own pattern, with his own patented casting on stitch.
Incidentally he was an oil well driller in Venezuela!
Men DO knit
fokyc
as much as you may be mad at the society, the brothers or family, do you think it is ethical to post their letters or e-mails?.
i kind of feel that these things were written with the intent of confidentiality and it is kind of unethical.
(please, no disrespect to those who don't agree).. any thoughts?.
Thanks jgnat for your support, the elders have not yet found out that I have this information.
I am are waiting for the right moment, I shall then present them with their own writings and publish all
or some suitable parts here for you all to read, so you can know for sure just what elders are really like.
fokyc
anyone here from, or served in, eastern europe?
(ukraine, russia, estonia?
)...
CCCP, UFA in Republic of Bashkiria and Kazan Republic of Tatarstan also Bulgaria and Poland.
Why?
fokyc
as much as you may be mad at the society, the brothers or family, do you think it is ethical to post their letters or e-mails?.
i kind of feel that these things were written with the intent of confidentiality and it is kind of unethical.
(please, no disrespect to those who don't agree).. any thoughts?.
In my case, I used the Data Protection Act, to force the Branch Office to release a copy of a letter written by the elders in my cong. to the branch.
This was about a sister in the cong, the branch deleted any content about other people and sent it to the sister's address.
She has now given it to me; it is the most appalling letter I have ever read in my whole life.
Importantly though I have no intention of publishing it (at this time) but it proves what disgraceful liars elders are.
fokyc
were you "fortunate" enough to be part of the "in crowd" or were you a spectator??
?
I had never thought about this before, I suppose for a while I must have been in the 'clique'.
For six years we had the CO to stay with us, as they always asked to come back.
Then the PO had an extension to his house built and we were OUT!
fokyc
im sitting here today thinking:.
"my daughter should have had open heart surgery years ago and she would have been too young to know anything about it.
instead, she is about to face it now....the surgeons were relectant to do it when we were jws and she was so young.
A lot of problems , a lot of anger , but I've enjoyed the fight , and I'm still fighting.
I now know they lie, I have written evidence, the Data Protection Act is a wonderful tool.
I'm 74 and I'm going to enjoy whatever time I have left, I even enjoyed visiting a Womans Prison yesterday, didn't get a 'Tee shirt' though , got one from Alcatraz!
fokyc
as ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the first vision story which was quite different from the offical first vision was my beginning way out of mormonism.
what about you ex-jw's?
what, in terms of wt doctrine, made you realize that the wt is a fraud?.
I have struggled on and off for over 50 years with 'The Truth'. This years District Convention was 'The Last Straw'.
The last talk on the Saturday afternoon was, 'Are You Living With Jehovah's Day in Mind?' followed by the release of a new book, you can download it here from Reexamine:
http://www.reexamine.info/00s/Living%20with%20Jehovah%20Day%20in%20mind%5b1%5d.pdf.pdf
The stress in that book on how to treat people and telling the truth is so in opposition to what was and is going on in my local congregation.
There is a serious conflict somewhere.
fokyc
i was talking to my grandmother tonight and she dropped the whole "we suffer so much because you're not part of us"... sigh.
always the same ole, same ole.
anyway, my how time passes.
Obed,
Not knowing the history of the site, all I can say is, "Thank you for any part you had in starting the forum".
It has been my life saver.
fokyc
what was the correct pre war term the wts used for pioneers was it colporters or coporters?
Colporters (from the French word "colporteurs," meaning those who carry from the neck), carried Bibles, tracts, and other reading materials strung by yokes across their shoulders to wilderness homes.
fokyc