God never had a beginning and never has an end ?Jesus walked on water ? Daniel in the lions den ? Those three dudes Nebuchadnezzar tossed into the furnace ? Two of every creature on earth in a ark ? What about the insects ? ARE KIDDING ME ! No way . Its all one big story that people have been Fuc...ing up for centuries. Kind of like when you have a line of people and you start at one end with a story and by the end of the line its a twisted version. Only the story was bullshit to begin with. That's what's in my head right now. No offense to any who still think those things were/are possible, but to logically think about it, now that I look back it seems kind of silly.
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by LtCmd.Lore ina recent post about moses got me thinking about all the wierd things in the bible that are just stated, but never explained.
sure different religions make up excuses for these things, but for some reason god and/or the bible writers, didn't find it neccesary to explain it.. here's one of my favorites, it's the one with the talking donkey: .
22 and the anger of god began to blaze because he was going; and jehovahs angel proceeded to station himself in the road to resist him.
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Is the Organization just a terrible MLM MULTI LEVEL MARKETING
by avidbiblereader inif you ran a business based on how much literture that has been printed which i would like to know about (just a rough guestimate) how much literture has been printed compared to how many witnesses are still left, don't you think this is a terrible ran business?
how much money do they spend annually on bethelites, co;s, do's and special pioneers and missionaries.
don't you think this is just a terribly ran business.
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1 dollar a week, lets lowball say 10,000 congs in the U.S. alone at about say 900,000 peak publishers.= $43,200,000 a year, oh yeah, and what about the real estate ? they could sell kingdom halls and start to liquidate and no one would say anything. They run so efficient and everybody works like dogs in Brooklyn and the Farms for peanuts, they really pack them in there. The return must be huge financially for the golden boys of Brooklyn . MLM's have nothing on the Watchtower machine.
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I did it and I don't feel like a pagan!
by TheHypnoToad infirst christmas tree, just put it up!
its a real one, put a lot of lights on it.. .
the witnesses are working in our area, so i am sure its just a mater of time (no more fadding at this point).. .
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This is the first year I am celebrating everything for a long ass time now . Even though I don't believe in all of it still, I don't think I ever did. My family is happy and that is what makes it all come alive again. Honestly, its family that matters more then anything else at these times, something different than what the Watchtower tries to teach new ones, Matthew 10:36
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STATE TAX FOR LITERATURE.
by Free ini have read that before 1990-91 witnesses would pay for literature at the kingdom hall , collect donations , and keep whatever they got in exchange.
is that true ?
i came in much later and it was never talked about now that i can remember.
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I have read that before 1990-91 Witnesses would pay for literature at the Kingdom Hall , collect donations , and keep whatever they got in exchange. Is that true ? I came in much later and it was never talked about now that I can remember. I did hear though that it was changed because some preacher in California sold some tapes on TV and that shit went all the way to the Supreme Court because of state tax. Guess what ? one month later after the verdict for the State an announcement at every Kingdom Hall in the U.S. Question = Who knows what was said and was anything said about TAX ?
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A NEW thread for ALL Atheistic ex-dubs---
by gordon d inmy first post since being reinstated (not jw but on the board) .
i think that mean people are not very nice... .
that hypocrites should consider that they might be behaving foolishly... .
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God never had a beginning and never has an end ?Jesus walked on water ? Daniel in the lions den ? Those three dudes Nebuchadnezzar tossed into the furnace ? Two of every creature on earth in a ark ? What about the insects ? ARE KIDDING ME ! No way . Its all one big story that people have been Fuc...ing up for centuries. Kind of like when you have a line of people and you start at one end with a story and by the end of the line its a twisted version. Only the story was bullshit to begin with. That's what's in my head right now. No offense to any who still think those things were/are possible, but to logically think about it, now that I look back it seems kind of silly. but believe what you want to believe ,Aliens, Santa Claus, Jesus Christ, Budda, The Marshall Tucker Band, stange feelings in Sedona,AZ. but don't play in the oven if you can't take the heat.
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Missing Scriptures
by Free ini forgot where they are but aren't there some scriptures in the new world translation that are left blank ?
why is this ?
, and what explanation do they give.
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I SALUTE YOU ALL!
by new boy ini have been on and off this forum for 4 1/2 years.
its a nice place to vist ---------------but i can't live here.. i think i have made peace with my 52 years as a "watchtower slave" and as chris said in the movie "platoon"--------"but it will always be with me in my heart and my mine"----------------and as he said also "we now have a duty to help others, so maybe they will not have to experience the waste years as we have".. so let us be patient with all who visit here.----------- because i think of myself, many years ago, at 21 years old, the self rightious nazis jw.
who if i met today, would have no problem pouring gas on me and setting me on fire!-----------most people need time to figure this all out------it took me 52 years -----------yes thats right "the dub"ist person on the board.----------everything happens at the right time.
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It took me almost 2 years after I had left before I would look at any objective literature about the borg. This forum is and was the starting point for many like myself who needed to move on. So no matter what, each and everyone who visits or posts here has to let it all out, no matter how old you are, nor the circumstance. We are here to listen , to vent and remember, Helping is part of healing. So thanks to all of you who help me heal.
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by Free ini forgot where they are but isn't there some scriptures in the new world translation that are left blank ?
why is this ?
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I forgot where they are but aren't there some scriptures in the new world translation that are left blank ? why is this ? , and what explanation do they give.
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by Free ini forgot where they are but isn't there some scriptures in the new world translation that are left blank ?
why is this ?
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I forgot where they are but isn't there some scriptures in the new world translation that are left blank ? why is this ? , and what explanation do they give.
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Agnostic/Atheist/Religion
by Free ini feel that since i have lost all faith in the society, i feel myself drifting further and further into more agnosticism / atheistic thinking.i am finding it harder every day to believe in a god or holy scripture.
i actually feel more at peace now not feeling like someone is watching me.
religion now rings a wicked song in my head that sings of control, power, money, greed, and endless seas of falsehood.
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Am I the only one ? I feel that since I have lost all faith in the society, I feel myself drifting further and further into more agnosticism / atheistic thinking. I am finding it harder every day to believe in a God or holy scripture. I actually feel more at peace now not feeling like someone is watching me. Religion now rings a wicked song in my head that sings of control, power, money, greed, and endless seas of falsehood. How about U ?