LayingLow,
Thats what I ment to say, I think you nailed it.
Free
confession time!
i was raised in the troof and therefor never "chose" it.
i find it really hard to get my head around why anyone would ever join this organization as an adult.
LayingLow,
Thats what I ment to say, I think you nailed it.
Free
confession time!
i was raised in the troof and therefor never "chose" it.
i find it really hard to get my head around why anyone would ever join this organization as an adult.
Anyone who start threads or post here continue to have baggage in some way shape or form regardless of whether they are born in or not. I guess that makes the Parents and/or Grandparents stupid if someone was raised in the Cult and those of them who got caught in it due to inheritance turned out smart enough to see beyond the mind control at a young age and come here to share their vast knowledge with us depressed and needy ones whose conversion seems unfathomable.
I do feel for those who did grow up in this Religion and used to feel sorry for them when their Parents would make them go to strangers doors in the fraud service or give talks at the Misery School or spend time at Circuit and District assemblies when most were obviously uncomfortable and should have been at the beach playing in the sand. I can understand them looking back on those who joined as adults and after leaving being like " I would have never got involved if I were an adult, I'm to smart to be fooled " but hindsight is 20/20 and we all came from different circumstances .Stupid threads like this one are as worthless and unfeeling as the ones we are all here to bash (WTBTS), So load up all that baggage and remember we are all in the same boat. Seems to be the ones who grow up Witnesses sometimes turn out worse and with more baggage then those who experienced real life before and were able to somewhat readjust to normal life faster after leaving. Something's are like riding a bike, You never forget, but try learning how to swim in your late teens or early twenties and see how fast you will sink at first, Good luck to you all, We all need this place. I saw allot of strange people in my time involved in the Religion, Some very bright and some not. This forum has been the best place for me and my own recovery and others need this place also. For those of us who came in and left as adults this thread is somewhat of a slap in the face. That's OK by me, I love pissing people off too, How about an Amen for all of us for seeing the Religion for what it is, a Cult.
I can take a slap, and definitely not afraid to give one back.
I can't believe that some who have posted on this thread have the balls to call the ones who came in and left as adults weak and with huge baggage when they themselves still go or went to meetings and/or the Memorial for years after realizing it was bullshit, WTF are you kidding me.
You have huge bags of luggage and to boot you waste your time and self inflict torture on yourselves attending those boring meetings, and for what ? " Oh, I do it for my Mate or my Mother or Father or Sister or Brother "
Please, Save it, You are the weakest link and are supporting the Cult even if its just taking up a seat. No shit, I feel better now, I love this place and appreciate many heartfelt post and threads from many on this site including some who have posted and will post on this one. Live Free or Die
i'm not trying to pick a fight i was just sitting at my desk pondering on some threads on jwd and i would very much like this question answered.. why is it that athiest often (not always) direct their argument for athiesism towards christians?
why not direct your argument towards buddists or muslims or even new-agers?
i mean they also believe in a higher power so why is it that only christains seem to get knocked?
It's safe to say that I dispise all who try and tell me that I am lacking something if I don't believe what they do. I am more toward the agnostic side of things now and although opinionated on my current views life is better without thinking someone invisible is watching you ( which is kind of freaky now that I look back ), Believe in what you will but mention to me anything about any Religion and how a higher power will condemn me if I don't come along and you will see that I am often quick to tell people to go F themselves.
life!
i have begun to live it - instead of waiting on the 'real life' we had been promised as jw's.
it started 4 years ago - but it moved slowly past the weeks and months of 'research', trying to find where i fit, then into an understanding that i didn't - at least not conventionally, fit anywhere, religiously speaking.
Live Free or Die, I'm with you Jeff
how much do you know about 9/11?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjyhzluuiu&feature=related.
I said stupid people also and I'm not your mate.
how much do you know about 9/11?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjyhzluuiu&feature=related.
Who are these two douche bags ? Boy , Australian TV shows must be so boring that they have to make fun of a few homeless people in NY, What's up with the last guy is right, He looks like one of the lost boys of Sudan. It's more like ask all Americans and you'll see that 99.9999999% of us know exactly what time and date it was and remember exactly where we were when it went down. Stupid threads like this one pop up here every once in a while and I like it, Its shows that people love to observe Americans and have virtually nothing interesting about their own countries to talk about. Yes, we have some stupid and homeless here too and yes it does piss me off that some of them have drivers licenses, It feels good to know though that other countries are smarter then us except, If they wanted to go to the moon 40 freaking years ago, or invent the Telephone, TV, Radio, Internet or just be able to wipe the floor with anybody that F's with them. So, the few homeless and stupid people this douche bag show seem to interview represents most Americans YEAH RIGHT!!! Live Free or die
i have stopped.
it brings up too many memorys of having some elder pray for the cong before we partook of any food.
it just seemd like a big production, all would gather around and bow heads in silence while some senior male gave thanks- no more- no thanks
MegaFlower, Welcome, it's OK to be pissed.I am constantly pissed, You will get many different views here that vary tremendously, Misconstrued sometimes is an understatement or bold can be an overstatement, Some drive by and shout out the car window others stand in the middle of the street. Some keep there mouths shut which is something I say to myself sometimes when I hit send. One thing is I feel good sometimes also. As long as you reply or post or start a new topic or butt into someone else's, you must say what you feel and now believe. When people pray before they eat I understand and can reason that that's what they believe. Exiting the Watchtower mess isn't easy, Some of us see thing's much different now as far as invisible Beings noticing prayer or thanking our employer's for giving us jobs so we can have that food on that table for our families. Whatever you say or now think is OK and helps with healing. If I offend people the first person I forgive is myself. Live Free or die.
i have stopped.
it brings up too many memorys of having some elder pray for the cong before we partook of any food.
it just seemd like a big production, all would gather around and bow heads in silence while some senior male gave thanks- no more- no thanks
What about all the starving children in Africa ? Think they pray for food and wonder why God has forgot about them ? Oh, but that is Satan's fault, I forgot.
Praying is a form of OCD. Just eat.
hey i do not want to be a whitness anymore, but i am shy and i do not know how to tell my mam and dad what i do not want to be one anymore.
i realy need help can you's tell me if any of you r going through the same thing as me or if you have been through it and told ur mam and dad and what you said and what they did.. thanks.
Hope James is never faced with the blood issue, His parents could refuse it if something ever happend to him, If I am correct.
i have stopped.
it brings up too many memorys of having some elder pray for the cong before we partook of any food.
it just seemd like a big production, all would gather around and bow heads in silence while some senior male gave thanks- no more- no thanks
Like those who would pray extra long in restaurants just to be seen. How pathetic it was to watch, Some would even look around after to see who noticed.