The 'politically correct' speech codes that silence in the name of professional and perpetual offendedness are far more fascist in nature and do nothing in the service of truth, they only stifle discussion.
excellentness, Dave, I love trees and water and wildlife and all that, but I loathe feigned outrage I see in every politician who feels he needs to get on the bandwagon of every hot button issue and agree agree agree, never offend anyone, appease every one, cover and agree with every point of view. "Perpetual offendedness" love it. We can be such sissies in developed countries. I'm outraged! Don't make a point I could disagree with! Dont' stand for something, because somebody else might have a different point of view and it could *gasp and faint* cause CONTENTION!!!! Oh please, save me from debate and controversy, save me from believing in something contrary to a zeitgeist, save me from every putting my hand out where it might get slapped. I need my valium, I need to ride the wave of everyone elses opinion.
I will mangle and destroy any opposing viewpoints, it might tear a hole in my perfectly knit ideologies that I've knicked off some poll in the NY Times.
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For all you tree hugers out there.
by whereami ini you have some time, this is a very interesting video.
reminds me of the way the wts likes to scare everyone, the sky if falling, the sky is falling!!!!!
enjoy.
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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Thanks for your kind thoughts. I didn't make myself clear - what bothered me was that I was actually defending the wts and being disloyal to some of the christians on here. But I'm glad you raised the topic as it brought home to me that many of us were JWs because we thought we were following Jesus Christ and it was our love for him that kept us in.
smellsgood: woops, ha ha *ahem* and I thought you were all brokenhearted over giving me stick
a blonde moment please forgive me, but I still love giving cyber hugs y'know. Yes, there is a distinction between the individual who truly has a "heart for Christ" as the say, and the WT which places doctrines in their path that are Anti-Christ. It's not the individual, but the "spirit" of the WT that is Anti-Christ. They are led to believe Jesus is the head, so it is his instruction being drafted.
My daughter is fading too - we often discuss topics on here.
smellsgood: do you have any other family that is still JW? Congrats to your daughter, did you quit the WT around the same time?
the WTS uses the example the young Isrealite girl who 'witnessed to Naaman' to encourage children to engage in the ministry.
Yes children definitely are coerced and put upon to share in the door to door work. I'm sure householders feel very sorry for the youngsters but witnesses use the presence of children to engage the householders attention.
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Need help to start Religious Cult, want to have my own kingdom
by Brain Dead inwell actually i was thinking about starting my very own religious cult, i would be king and master over my own kingdom and i would have my very own discrete salves.
and i would live in a big ivory tower so i could stand on top of my tower and look out at my vast kingdom that my discrete slaves had built me........yes.
and once a day i would go down to the financial department and count all the millions that my slaves had brought me....aw millions, millions of pretty little dollars....aw....aw.
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and once a day I would go down to the financial department and count all the millions that my slaves had brought me....aw millions, millions of pretty little dollars....aw....aw
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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I got a bit carried away debating with you and it bothered me all day.
smellsgood: Ahhhh, don't worry about it darling, you must have a really tender heart if the very mild things you said bothered you! That's sweet! Besides, what's life without a little debate now and then hmmm? I say what a privilege to put ideas out there you really believe and give them the once over eh? If I never offend anybody in my life, not you, but just in the politically don't scratch my skin climate we are in, at the end, I will have accomplished nothing because I stood for nothing. ((((bernadette))))seriously, don't worry about it. I admit I rather like debating....I debated some hardcore lifer JW's online for a year or so...so I've cut my teeth really. Not of course comparing you to them at all. I did get a kick out of tearing apart their illogic, but they didn't come around sadly.
Personally the wts doesn't practice the spirit of Christ cos imo the FDS are focused on their own survival and importance. They say they rely on holy spirit but in reality they draw their strength from slaving the down trodden, from engaging the service and burdening down people who are already sighing and groaning under the weight of living and from child labour and they show no mercy or compassion
smellsgood: hear hear!
Was talking to my daughter the other day and was wondering how they scripturally justify sending children out in the ministry to bring in new recruits. Any ideas smellsgodd?
smellsgood: Is your daughter a JW? I really don't see it as being scripturally justified. It's just a further indoctrination tool for a very tender and impressionable youth. I don't think Peter was an adolescent, and it doesn't appear in the course of history that there has been at any time a childpreaching army. They are vulnerable, and what they are taught, they take to heart. I'm pretty sure that the apostles for example had children. There is no mention of them traipsing around Israel hut to hut to preach. There is no cause for it, and the householders no doubt look at a child in that situation as being put upon and coerced as it were, which they are in fact. I think children need to be nurtured, not tortured.
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Would Any of You be Interested in going Door to Door?
by smellsgood inas part of a cult awareness campaign of sorts???
to de-ignorize (new word) householders and give them tools for engaging a cult member on their door step?
i had that idea and got some positive feedback...so, any of you would find that something you would want to participate in ?
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sKally, brilliant. You said it was effective for you, so your saying that people were receptive generally and didn't think you were the nuttiest nutter ever to...behave nuttilly?
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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Bernadette,
Were you bothered at all by their history? Their failed prophecies? Their lies? Their Child abuse policy? The affilliation with the U.N.?
What has that got to do with whether or not the WTS is christian? Has that ever had anything to do with qualifying or disqualifying a religion from being christian?
smellsgood: I'm not asking as from the point of qualifying it as Christian or not. Those are things that just prove its a lying deceiving false entity.
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Misquoting Jesus-a must read
by dawg ini've read comments from those of you that still cling to the bible stating that there's no merit in the di vinci code's claim concerning the conference in nicea in 325. we all know that book is fiction but like all great fiction, there's some truth behind the story.
some of you have made statements that the nt was actually written by the apostles, which i refuted, and after asking for and not reciveing information from you believers any bible scholars anywhere that would go on record saying they believed the nt was in fact written by the apostles; i decided to researcht he subject on my own.
i could find no scholars that believed the apostles wrote the nt; as a matter of fact, they all said the apostles couldn't have written them.
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Scholars anywhere that would go on record saying they believed the NT was in fact written by the apostles; i decided to researcht he subject on my own. I could find no scholars that believed the apostles wrote the NT; as a matter of fact, they all said the apostles couldn't have written them.
smellsgood: First of all, Matthew, Mark and John are the apostles. Paul and Luke were not apostles.
For you believers, the offer still stands, show me where any scholar-i'm talking a person in a secular position at any University that will state on record that he/she believes the apostles actually wrote the NT. I've just finished 6 books on the subject, all of the writers were sceptical of the NT's orgins; everyone of them agreed that the apostles didn't write the NT; everyone of them said the NT was filled with errors.
smellsgood: Either the books were written by sadly historically ignorant folks, or men who were distorting history to support their own philosophy.
I don't like it when authors are blatantly historically innaccurate or ignorant, but they aren't barred from publishing their books.
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Would Any of You be Interested in going Door to Door?
by smellsgood inas part of a cult awareness campaign of sorts???
to de-ignorize (new word) householders and give them tools for engaging a cult member on their door step?
i had that idea and got some positive feedback...so, any of you would find that something you would want to participate in ?
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Yeah, slimboyfat, it would have nought to do with the century of lies and falsehoods promulgated by that festering organization.
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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian
by smellsgood inwatchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .
" john 6:40 watchtower style .
the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .
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Didn't Jesus say something like if they are not against me then thay are for me.
smellsgood: In Biblical theology there is something known as hermeneutics. You cannot isolate one verse without taking the other verses into mind as well. What you have is an eisogetic statement. Building proofs upon one verse doesn't work in determining the entire "spirit" of the gospels. I would say that the WT is against him, not for him. They don't teach the gospel as written in the NT bottom line.
Pernsonally if one wants to be a christian then there are easier ways of being one. My own reason for leaving JWs is that they are very damaging re their schedule of activites etc.
smellsgood: Were you bothered at all by their history? Their failed prophecies? Their lies? Their Child abuse policy? The affilliation with the U.N.?
Am I a Christian? Please see my posts to Gumby p.1
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