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  A little bit more about myself....

  by truth.ceeker in

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  if any are so inclined to read a little bit more about me i would appreciate it.

  what i would like to know is if anyone has gone through a similar situation and how they dealt with it or are dealing with it.

  it seems to me that the more people i talk to and learn about, it opens my eyes to different ways of looking at something and sometimes a light bulb goes off in my brain and says, wow!, i never thought if it that way before but it could be really effective for me.. oh, i guess i could give you the link,

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  smellsgood

  Hi there truth.ceeker!
  
  well done.
  
  you said:
  "I find more instances of a man centered organization that is replacing Jesus as the mediator between GOD and men."
  
  YES! They put themselves squarely in Jesus' place.
  
  Do you know much about the WWCOG, at least, their history??
  
  "So many wordings have been changed to slowly train the minds of the congregation that the organization is the mouthpiece of GOD and Jesus is a sidekick."
  
  It seems though he is 'ruling invisibly' the only good he is for the WT most times is a figure of authority used to their own ends.
  
  " My children are at the mercy of these so called righteous men who have the authority to shut us out of the congregation if we do not follow every letter of the rules they put forth."
  
  oooooh, power. control. command. mix it with idiocy and totalitarian subjugation, and watch the milk turn quickly sour.
  
  
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  0-16. My Story.

  by serotonin_wraith in

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  i was raised from the womb until the age of 16 as a jw, i was never really a part of it.

  i never got baptized, by the end i hated everything about it.

  the worst part was not being able to voice any opinions i had on the religion, not unless i wanted them to fall on deaf ears and be considered immoral.

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  Hi there Serotonin_wraith
  
  I'm very happy to hear you got out of the cult at a relatively young age. Good for you. You mentioned that you were finally allowed to hang out with nonbelievers, mentioning your mother. Does this mean that you were not allowed to see her growing up???? That your father was a JW and had custody of you?? What happened with her? Did she leave it or was she "expelled"?
  
  
  Its kind of funny you mentioned this:::
  
  "I had to throw away a CD (The Holy Bible by Manic Street Preachers if anyone's interested!) but I fished it out of the bin the next morning and hid it"
  
  because I just downloaded that album again like a week ago...after having not heard it for about three years or so.
  
  My dad doesn't like it either. In fact he was over at the house today and said in his irascible way "can you just turn that off....let's just listen to something peaceful"...
  
  
  cool, groovy, morning, fine...
  
  
  smellsgood
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  My wonderful boyfriend

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  i don't know why, but i felt a bit low today.

  i had the blues this morning, and just couldn't shake them off.

  i'm usually quite chatty, but i have been very quiet today, and it wasn't long before dedpoet noticed.

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  smellsgood

  beautiful
  
  
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  I have been told by "born-again christians" Booker, why do you attack BACs

  by booker-t in

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  when i was growing up as a "devout" jw's i ran into countless of born-again christians(bacs) that would tell me i was going to hell, i was in a "cult", jw's were the "anti-christ" the wts was "satanic" and we were going to burn in the lake of fire for all eternity.

  can you imagine how i felt as a jw's working at a place with 10 bacs telling me this at lunch time.

  but still i would treat them nice and play cards with them and never openly judge them.

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  Booker: about not caring about Tithing he got angry at me and told me that the Bible says you have to tithe. I did not have a problem with giving money I even gave as a JW's but I did not like it the way they lied about it.
  
  smellsgood: Um, this is a whacked out church and a pastor on pills. That's insane. They have no right to know about your personal income. Also, as a church "pastor" obviously he should know *even if it doesn't put money direct in the church coffers* that "tithing" does not even need include a 'Church.' Charities are very much included in that. You think God wouldn't appreciate medicine/food/shelter for the poor/hungry/sick in the world. A donation to those things are very much "tithing." give me a break what a dumb reaction he had.
  
  booker: And when I stood up for myself they got very angry at me. I told them that I would not give the church any money because they lied. And they all but told me not to come back. Every time you mention to a born-again christian about all of the dirt that goes on in some of the churches they will generally say "those are isolated cases". My question to posters out there is are Born-Again Christians a "controlling group" like the JW's and don't want you to have your independence?
  
  smellsgood: The trouble is, there is no 'center' to the born-again Christians. By definition, born again is in individual state, no community environment necessary. I wouldn't say it could be a cult because there is indeed no hierarchy type top-down structuring. There's no society/person etc. ruling the born-again Christians from the top down.
  
  It's a shame that those you worked with were so ignorant by the way. Instead of threatening you with damnation, wouldn't it have been nice if one of them had tried to ask you from his viewpoint why Jesus wasn't your mediator, or brought crisis of conscience in, or just generally didn't behave like a prik with re: to your unfortunate affiliation with the WT at that time. That's the unfortunate hazard: stupidity, of the ignorant sector of the 'believing' community at large.
  
  They should have been helpful not odious and antagonistic.
  
  
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  Should I persue a relationship with a Jehovah's Witness?

  by BNS in

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  i am 21 and live in ny.

  i lived in sc for 2 years and went to college there.

  while i was there, i met a 27 year old married man and he had an affair with me.

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  <div>BNS: I am 21 and live in NY. ; I lived in SC for 2 years and went to college there. ; While I was there, I met a 27 year old married man and he had an affair with me. ; He is African American and I am White. ; His now ex-wife, which he has a 2 year old son with, ;is a Jehovah's Witness. ; Recently he took interest and became a JW. ; I currently have no religion and am not completely sure of what I believe in. ; My family is not religious and I wasn't raised with any kind of faith. ; I have very ;strong feelings for this man, to the extent that I am considering moving back to SC to be with him. ; Is it possible for this relationship to work? ; Would our racial differences be frowned upon by his religion? ; Is it possible for me to learn about his beliefs to appease him, but not convert?>>>>>
  smellsgood: Well hello and welcome first of all. I'm 22/f and have never been a Jehovah's Witness myself
  I'm really happy that you came to this board. You've probably just saved yourself from making one of the biggest mistakes of your life.
  Unfortunately, you're man is now part of a high control, dominating cult. I think the general attitude of relationships once one is a Witness, (and if he is at all serious about his conversion to this, he will follow suit) is that you are to try your darndest not to pursue relationships with 1) a "worldly" person (anyone who is not a JW 'unevenly yoked') 2) any relationship that does not have a view of marriage on the horizon.
  Please, please please don't let yourself entertain any religion based on interest in another person!! Just look what happened to Katie Holmes. ha.
  That's a good example, actually. Here comes sweet little Catholic Katie. Tom, Katie; Katie, Tom. Ethan Hunts on a mission. Target Katie. Katie "Oh Tom your wonderful." Tom 'Katie is my methamphetamine' lunges at Oprah.
  Tom "Oh, you can be a Catholic Scientoligist, a Muslim Scientologist, not a depressed Scientologist though"
  Katie "The thing I love about Scientology is that I can be a Catholic and a Scientologist"
  Diane Sawyer: "So will the baby have a Christening"
  Tom: "Yes, a scientologist one"
  Diane: "is Katie a Catholic still?"
  Tom: "no, just a scientologist"
  <pffffft, those feathers weren't hard to pluck
  the point being that its easy to get swept up into a cult through love of a cult member. You love the person. The person is dogmatized into a strict religious discipline. It won't be long now til you're willing to drop what you do or don't believe to "appease" that person to have them/keep them/not let them down.
  As with all devoted cult members, Tom Cruise not only had to have Katie, but he took it a step farther and stole her communion wafers, and used the wine to ply her before insemination.
  What I am trying to say here is that he looks at his religion as the problem solver, the shining city on a hill, the ANSWER to the QUESTION. Thus, when he finds a lover, he is thrilled about that, and since he is also so thrilled with auditing and whatnot, he shares what he loves or believes with his lover. To open her eyes, save her, to have her experience what he believes is vital for him, and all people to know/believe/think.
  Scientology is strikingly wacky though. The WTBTS is ever so subtler and craftier. Their *urgh* "foundation" at least is supposedly a book which two of the three biggest religions use anyway.
  Since a cult considers itself a sole channel to God/peace/joy/happiness/fulfillment/destiny, it by definition excludes others and demands total affiliation.
  I would recommend looking up their history/doctrine on www.freeminds.org, i actually first went to this site: www.jwfiles.com when i was first learning about them.
  I don't think the inter-racial thing is so much a problem, at least from a doctrinal standpoint. I'm not sure your guy knows they were pretty darn racist back in the day, though. This of course was not soley a WT folley back in that time.
  I'm hoping that maybe if you two do share a really lovely connection, and you want to still be involved with him, that perhaps you could help him in one of the most amazing ways possible. You could be the person who tells him the real story about the WT, and get him out of a wicked, lying, profiteering corporation.
  good luck
  smellsgood
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  Jehovah's Witnesses paid me a visit this morning. {the new Tract}

  by SixofNine in

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  on another discussion board, the following was posted with the title i used here.

  thought i'd share (be sure to check out the last paragraph, which is the guy's "take" on the jw message.

  i didn't actually speak to them, because i was still in bed, but their presence certainly sent my dog barking like crazy.

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  <<<<<<"Why did God not destroy Adam and Eve and start over with another human pair? Because God's universal sovereignty, that is, his right to rule, has been challenge. The question was, Who has the right to rule, and whose rule is right? By extension, Could humans do better if not ruled by God? In allowing them enough time to experiment with total freedom, God would establish once and for all whether they are better off under his rule or their own.">>>>>>
  
  smellsgood: This is a very condensed strange presentation of even the biblical story. "Experiment with total freedom" hmmmmm, I understand it better from the perspective that if He had created us without freedom, that is, without the possibility to do evil, by doing so he would have created a being who also could not truly love, just obey. "Automaton" describes it. It's about relationship more than dominion.
  
  <<<<<<<<"All the evidence shows that we are nearing the end of man's tragic experiment in independence from God. It has been clearly demonstrated that rulership by humans apart from God can never succeed. Only God's rulership can bring peace, happiness, perfect health, and everlasting life. So Jehovah's toleration of wickedness and suffering is nearing its end. Soon God will intervene in human affairs by destroying this entire unsatisfactory system of things.">>>>>>
  
  
  <<<<<Is it the case then that they teach that God has not been ruling since then? >>>>>>
  
  smellsgood: The good news of the WT is not to do with Christ come, but billions massacred, world to "end" ushering in a new world where He's wrapped up the experiment and decides to go ahead and, it would seem, have the humans around in a corporal existence still, just, happy, peaceful, and without the possibility of doing evil? It sounds like a UN goal. It sounds like he's decided to do what he wouldn't in the first place. Strange
  
  
  <<<<<<So, they want me to love and worship a God they've told me used us as an experiment, and allowed billions to suffer for thousands of years before ultimately destroying them. I'm all for religious freedom, but this doesn't sound like me.>>>>>
  
  
  smellsgood: Good point on this tract. What a terrible job they do presenting their message to minds that are not already entangled in their web. The dopes in Brookly must really sweat trying to put together a message that is mass friendly, given the fact that they can't "market" their version of Jehovah in a way revealing an ounce of sanity.
  
  
  <<<Why do these people follow me from house to house? >>>>
  
  smellsgood: rats and children follow me out of town
  
  
  
  
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  Science or Art, which best describes the human condition?

  by eyeslice in

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  i ask this question because, as a young man i would have said science is the only and best way to describe who and what we are.

  when you think about it, the wtb&ts fits into the science camp, having a dogmatic; everything can be explained type attitude.

  now i am older am less sure.

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  BOTH.
  
  This fake choice is the sort of thing the WT holds over everybodys heads.
  
  "science OR the Bible - Which?" ; Who says we have to choose. ; Each deals with different aspects of human experience, and often unites them in an "Aha!!" moment.
  
  In some respects science is as subjective as art, and needs the same amount of imagination and fantasy, to arrive at a truly inspired answer to a problem.
  
  HB>>>>
  
  
  well said Hamsterbait.
  
  
  saying one or the other would be like saying that as a human are you happy or sad?
  
  apple pie or ice cream
  
  both , and then more
  
  
  
  
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  Heard today: "Wow, why's it so long?"

  by Elsewhere in

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  that's right, i was at frys browsing around to kill some time and while i was in the computer section i saw a kid and his dad looking at monitors.

  the kid apparently had never seen a crt monitor before.

  damn... makes me feel old.

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  Oh... I thought it was going to be something rude...Buuut as I'm still here, I got pulled over a few months ago for having a headlight out. I went and sat in the cops car for a breath test and he asked for my licence which is a green card identical in proportions to a credit card. Three times in my nervousness I handed him my blue EFTPOS (ATM) card and each time he politely said 'no, that's not it' and then he pointed it out to me. I looked at him and asked if he'd like to breath test me again.>>>
  
  
  LMAO! so....were you tossed?
  
  have tried putting the video rental card into the atm machine before...
  
  
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  How do you like my avatar? :)

  by averyniceguy in

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  smellsgood

  its averynicepicture
  
  
  monkeys think orange peel teeth are hilarious too it seems.
  
  
  quite charming
  
  
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  JW's, science, and how old is man?

  by clovis in

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  one thing that always got me about the org.

  was how they praised modern science when it upheld or agreed with their thinking or doctrines.

  however they totally bashed it when it refuted something they taught.

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  "Consider the relationship between Jehovah and Jesus. They were together in heaven for perhaps billions of years."
  
  The Watchtower, August 15, 2005
  
  Page 27, Paragraph 15
  
  
  
  
  
  This is ridiculous as well, how funny to think that they think of Deity living in a A_______B dimension in time, not beyond it.
  
  
  Come on, science nor religion agree with this.
  
  smellsgood