Hey Simon - can't wait to see those '02' statistics, eh?
Posts by Dia
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8Statistics request...
by happysunshine incan someone point me in the right direction for x-jw stats?
primarily, i need to find out: how many % people raised as witnesses leave later; mental illness rates of current/x members; anything else available.
i'm surmising that there hasn't been much research in this area to date.
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Statistics request...
by happysunshine incan someone point me in the right direction for x-jw stats?
primarily, i need to find out: how many % people raised as witnesses leave later; mental illness rates of current/x members; anything else available.
i'm surmising that there hasn't been much research in this area to date.
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Dia
Go to google.com and search for Dr. Jerry Bergman (a psychologist and exJW who has written extensively about these things, including a book called, "Jehovahs Witnesses and the Problem of Mental Illness").
He would either have the stats you seek or might be your best lead in finding them.
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Why did YOU want to live forever??
by Scully inwhat was it about living forever that appealed to you when you were a jw?.
was it the idea that you'd have all the time in the world to do whatever you wanted to do?
were you thinking about travelling the world and seeing it all transformed into a paradise?
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Dia
This has really been an interesting read.
Funny, but I don't think I ever really thought much about it. Tho I truly believed in God and some other things (can't think of what right now, so I can't enumerate), maybe I just didn't buy all this hook, line and sinker? I didn't NOT buy it.
I think maybe I was just paying careful, scrutenous attention and keeping it filed somewhere, knowing what I was EXPECTED to believe and parroting that on command like a good JW child.
But to sit around dreaming about or wishing about what it was going to be like?
I can imagine that in a group of JWs I might verbalize such musings, with the rest of the crowd. Kind of a little 'what if' game.
But in my heart of hearts? If I thought anything, I guess I just thought that if God was doing this, I'm sure he'd know what he was doing.
And I didn't worry about whether or not I could figure it all out ahead of time.
I'm not sure if this made me MORE of a 'believer' than others here, or LESS.
What do you think?
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My grandma
by Vivamus inmy grandma was a remarkable woman, with a sense of humour that could crack me up.
and she had the determination to make everything she started a success.
she never gave up, and fought for everything she hold dear.
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Dia
Thank you for sharing that beautiful story.
It is an inspiration on living and on loving.
I will be keeping a copy of it..
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Stupid drunk drivers......
by Jesus Christ inmy house is at the end of a fairly busy street that dead ends in our front yard and then takes up again a few houses down.
i was trying to set up some email stuff for a client tonight around 10:30 when i heard some police sirens.
i stood up and looked out my window to see a pair of headlights quickly coming towards my house with the police behind them.
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Dia
Or a tree or two. Someone I know has one of those huge yellow signs, in her case with an arrow on it.
I always think, 'oh it's unfortunate she has that huge yellow sign in her front yard', but better than the alternative.
And from her side, it's not a huge yellow sign.
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN AUSTRALIA
by izobcenec inwatchtower
bible and tract society of australia.
box 280, ingleburn, nsw 1890 australia.
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Dia
The other thing about them getting themselves involved in an investigation FIRST is that they can really screw up an investigation.
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The Psychosis of an Organization
by metatron inrecently, some naive (loyal witness) friends of ours did a. tour of bethel.
they were told about the society's movement.
of printing and binding functions to other places, including.
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Dia
The one thing that a pathological narcissist CANNOT deal with, cannot confront, cannot handle is SHAME.
In fact, their whole world is constructed around avoiding, outrunning, suppressing, denying, ignoring shame.
Just my .02
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN AUSTRALIA
by izobcenec inwatchtower
bible and tract society of australia.
box 280, ingleburn, nsw 1890 australia.
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Dia
"If you don't let us 'investigate' first, how can we keep our beloved database going?"
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Jobs that the WTS doesn't approve of
by freedom96 inthere were several different careers that the wts did not aprove of.
such as a being a cop, for having a gun.
couldn't be a martial arts instructor.. maybe it was a well paying career.. did you have a job that was not approved of?
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Dia
So money isn't their primary pursuit.
It's power.
Or, maybe, the freedom to run their little pedophilic empire.
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Me and my brother.
by nicolaou inan earlier discussion has been highlighting the differences between da'ing and df'ing.
xena said:i am sorry qadreena but i have never in the 20 some odd years i have been a jw ever heard of an unbaptised publisher being d/aed...marked as bad association yes..but d/a...no...but i guess stranger things can happen.... well that brought it all back.. actually xena the exact same thing happened to my brother in the early 80's.
he was only 14. he'd carried on associating with a friend of his who'd been disfellowshipped.
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Dia
As I've been saying, JWs ought to have their kids taken away from them on the grounds that they are not fit to be parents.
I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but think how things MIGHT change if parents that allow their kids to be subjected to situations like this were forced to give up their kids for awhile until they completed some parenting education classes.
Just wondering...since the internal rules were changed after a court battle, mightn't your brother have some right to sue them for the actions they took against him and the subsequent results?
I'd suggest talking to an attorney. Perhaps one of those that are so involved in other JW stuff right now.
They should be forced to take some responsibility for their outrageous actions against children.
Thanks for a beautiful story.