Did you leave the first comment Nathan?
It's very good.
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Did you leave the first comment Nathan?
It's very good.
well, her hubby got removed as an ms and was privately reproved.
she had a bit to drink and told me.
the weird thing is, she said it was for a ridiculously dumb thing that she didn't even think would warrant a jc.... she went on to say that she told her husband that even though he didn't deserve private reproof, that all the things he had done in the past probably caught up to him and that's why he's on reproof.. i felt like saying, if all this was going on, then why were you so worried about what i was doing?
it wasn't smoking or drugs or alcohol. I said, "oh, it's probably about money then." And she gave me a funny look like that's what it was...
Could it be about the big one................ sex?
i hope this one will be dropped: jehovah our father in heaven; oh, this is a most sacred night; twas nisan 14 when your glory was seen .... i hated that song!.
sylvia.
More then shulamite maiden?
i have been so worked up and worried for years about the end and armageddon that i have headaches, depression, and all kinds of maladies.
been having troubles with it since 4th grade and nothing seems to help.
just being at the kingdom hall is mentally taxing, just anything jw is mentally taxing.
If you want to keep getting what your getting.
Keep doing what your doing.
Your body is telling you something, please trust yourself enough to listen.
in answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
He has justified it in his own mind, your not going to change that.
I would imagine that he believes that your daughter shares 50% of the blame, this is the JW mindset.
I just hope your daughter doesn't feel that way.
a friend of mine was asked if she had become "moist" along with had penetration actually taken place , why is that necassary to ask along with did you fondle breasts etc surley they could keep it short and ask if the "deed " was done , yes or no ?
why all the other questions ?
she was only 19 with no experiance of life and sex and was so embaressed she could not answer and was disfellowshipped for being "cocky" any ideas ?.
the JC arrangement is inherently flawed in that it can quickly become a condoned sexual harassment session. The victim is often so nervous and guilt ridden they don't realize what is really happening.
This is true, however in my case I was sexually assaulted by my stepfather.
And then i had to sit alone with three elders asking me about all the details.
That JC was a sexual assault in itself.
It took me decades to get over it, mainly because I kept trying to convince myself that what the elders did to me was OK.
When my oldest daughter began approaching the age I was when those elders assaulted me is when I started to wake up.. When I pictured her in the position I was in, I became enraged with the elders. There is no way i would allow any man to talk to my daughter the way those elders spoke to me. Just the though of it makes me want to do damage to someone.
i appreciate all the advice on here about making friends outside the organization.. i am making new friends, both at work and at school.. but it's not the same as old friends.. my old friends i grew up with.
i sometimes go to the movies with them, dumb movies.
like that night at the museum, smithsonian one.
You have no history, no shared experiences. AND they are not Witnesses, so they can't relate to a lot of the stuff I have been through
I know what you mean, when you leave the society, you leave virtually everything behind you.
In a way, it's like being reborn, and you have to start over.
It's worth it though.
these are couples that i know personally.. a brother i know married a sister 36 years older than him.
he was 35, she was 71. they are still married 5 years later.
they do not get along, and they make that known to the entire hall.. a brother that has been married twice and is 50 years old recently married a 19-year old.
Oldhippy we had a similar couple in our hall, she was a very pale red head and he was dark to the point of black.
It was very eye catching, they looked so exotic.
my mother had left the truth for 4 years in the early 90's.
when she came back she was already remarried.
he started to study and got baptized.
I wish my wife, who is studying with a jw right now, would realize that if she keeps moving along, once baptized about the only thing she will be allowed to do is sell literature, she will be amongst the lowest of the low
I can't help but believe she will eventually see it, hopefully sooner then later.
As i memtioned above, the sisters with UBM that I knew were all very aware of there statis in the congregation, they still believed it was the truth, but they felt like outcasts.
of course anyone not a jw is "worldly""...i think that mentally this is the hardest part to overcome if you are born in..... you should have seen the look on my wife's face recently when i told her that i feel that things are prob about as good as it gets.....no evil wicked system of things exists........ ya..... i know times are tough here in usa as far as employment.....but damm....this ain't like the great depression or wwi or ww2!!
!.......life in the middle ages used to be 38 years......now it is 88 years!!!.......
i can walk just about any neighborhood without fear...if the "world" were as bad as they say...there would be a prisons every 1000 meters!!!
When people say that things are advancing from bad to worse ask them what other time they would like to live in,
If I'm with someone who starts complaining about "this system of things" I always ask them the above question.
They usually give you the deer in the headlights look, and you can practically see the wheels turning in their heads and I believe on some leval they are having an aha moment.
I know that's how it happened for me.