All i can say is that i knew all these issues before i got baptised. I would have thought many know about Judicial Commitees, etc.
Paul
yes, the fairly new bible teach book contains some info in the appendix, but do witnesses include that in the study?.
All i can say is that i knew all these issues before i got baptised. I would have thought many know about Judicial Commitees, etc.
Paul
as you may or may not know yesterday was the mayoral elections in london.. the results are now in, for those who do not know him, here he is....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzaazszlewk&feature=related.
cannot believe it.......................here he is playing football..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1en7yvqhamg&feature=related.
what a joke.... paul.
Boris Johnson's message to the chinese, now that London is going to host the next Olympics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqTq0oMuK8
Doesn't he just make you proud?
Paul
maybe for the same reason the bible namecalls:.
sinners.
undeserving.
Reniaa,
I take it we have you back in the apostate fold?
Paul
i also thought of this yesterday.
j. edgar hoover was in charge for like 50 years and he investigated everyone.
what was his thoughts about the watchtower did he consider them a threat?.
Quoted from, http://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=3694
World War II led to further conflict between Jehovah’s Witnesses and their neighbors. Because of their refusal to salute the flag or to serve in the armed forces, Jehovah’s Witnesses were beaten, jailed, or both. W. M. Manning was arrested in Texarkana (Miller County) and convicted on charges of desecrating the flag and distributing un-American literature. He received the maximum sentence of thirty days in jail and a $100 fine, in spite of a letter from J. Edgar Hoover (director of the FBI) saying that the Jehovah’s Witnesses had no connection with the Nazis or any other un-American group. In June 1941, Joe Johnson was convicted of showing public contempt for the flag in Marshall (Searcy County) because he had refused to pledge allegiance to the flag as a condition of receiving his monthly welfare allowance. A year later, the Arkansas State Supreme Court sustained his sentence.
How would J.Edgar Hoover know that JW's had no connection with Nazi's or othe "unAmerican groups" if they hadn't been investigated?
Paul
i wanted to put this thread out for any newbies and lukers to see how things are going in your life !
please know that those of us who have exited the jw religion care about you - so if you need to vent about what you have been experiencing - this thread is a good place to do it !
many here, including myself have been through what you are going through - so please post your thoughts here - and we will try to assist you !
Good thread flipper, i didn't think there were any newbies about.
Paul
digderidoo's final thread (probably).... i intend this to be my final thread, unless jwd continues in some form or i need major advice.. this is not a goodbye thread, as i will still post and pm, i will also enter chat if it comes into existence.
after the 'announcement' it has made me think about the time i have spent on jwd and where i will go from here.. i have looked at other sites and have posted on some of them.
but with the closing down of the site, i have asked myself do i really want to start posting jw related issues elsewhere?
Thanks Quandry and Sweetstuff,
At this moment i am not thinking about becoming a lawyer, i feel i will be too old to get into the competativeness of the profession. But there are many things that i could do with the degree. Long term i am looking at lecturing or research, don't know yet but the first thing to do is get the degree, which is something i have wanted to do for many years.
Paul
digderidoo's final thread (probably).... i intend this to be my final thread, unless jwd continues in some form or i need major advice.. this is not a goodbye thread, as i will still post and pm, i will also enter chat if it comes into existence.
after the 'announcement' it has made me think about the time i have spent on jwd and where i will go from here.. i have looked at other sites and have posted on some of them.
but with the closing down of the site, i have asked myself do i really want to start posting jw related issues elsewhere?
Digderidoo's final thread (probably).... I intend this to be my final thread, unless JWD continues in some form or i need major advice.
This is not a goodbye thread, as i will still post and pm, i will also enter chat if it comes into existence. After the 'announcement' it has made me think about the time i have spent on JWD and where i will go from here.
I have looked at other sites and have posted on some of them. But with the closing down of the site, i have asked myself do i really want to start posting JW related issues elsewhere? The answer is no i do not.
I guess the announcement has made me move on from all things JW related. I have come a long way since i first posted here back in 2001, back then it was good to read about others in the same boat as me. It was also good to talk to others in chat, which is where i spent most of my time, rather than posting.
Since coming back to this site about one year ago i have moved on a lot. I needed to look at my JW past with regards to the fact i was no longer drinking alcoholicly. Since then i have got myself sober one day at a time.
I would like to thank Simon for providing this site and the mods for keeping it in check. It is solely down to this site that i have become deprogrammed so to speak. Through this site i have found Ray Franz's Crisis of Conscience, which has changed my life. There is a wealth of knowledge here, that has helped me come to terms with my JW past. I have come across many wonderful people here, all have helped, some in a small way, some in a large way. I am also looking forward to meeting some at the London Apostafest in April.
I have enjoyed in recent weeks seeing how newcomers are introduced to the knowledge found here, however with the site closing these are obviously discussion that will cease. I have looked at other sites but do not really want to start over, although i will still browse them and maybe post from time to time. JWS looks the start of something good, although i am sure there will be some teething problems, but i will keep an eye on it.
Over the last week i have been away on holiday and the thought of this logging on to this site now hasn't really entered my head, so it's time for me to make a step back.
JWD is second to none for an ex jw site, so at this moment in time i will not start posting threads elsewhere. However, if newcomers arrive on other sites with questions, i will give my opinion on doctrine in the hope it will help them, as it has helped me.
I felt a while ago that i had become an ex, ex jw. This happened when i attended a few meetings and saw the thoughts coming from the platform for what they are.
I have had my acceptance letter today for a law degree, through the University of London, which i have been expecting for the last three weeks, so i am in a happy place at the moment. So for the forseeable future i wll be concentrating my efforts with this. And not forgetting the start of the football season too
It is sad that this site is coming to an end, but others will replace it and fill that hole. I hope Simon and his family can move on from JW related issues also, which from his posts i know they will, i wish them all the best.
As i mentioned at the beginning this is not a goodbye thread, i intend to post on other threads and i intend to enter chat if it gets up and running these final few weeks. However i do not intend to start another thread, unless this site continues in some form in the future, or i have a major emergency and need advice.
So thank you each and every one of you, new and old. This site has truly been a tool in helping me change my life for the better.
Paul
updated 3:34 p.m. et aug. 6, 2008new york - if the trends of the past three decades continue, itas possible that every american adult could be overweight 40 years from now, a government-funded study projects.
the figure might sound alarming, or impossible, but researchers say that even if the actual rate never reaches the 100-percent mark, any upward movement is worrying; two-thirds of the population is already overweight.
agenetically and physiologically, it should be impossiblea for all u.s. adults to become overweight, said dr. lan liang of the federal governmentas agency for healthcare research and quality, one of the researchers on the study.
SL, i didn't think you was trying to judge. I have no problem discussing my weight and don't mind any comments on it.
Paul
updated 3:34 p.m. et aug. 6, 2008new york - if the trends of the past three decades continue, itas possible that every american adult could be overweight 40 years from now, a government-funded study projects.
the figure might sound alarming, or impossible, but researchers say that even if the actual rate never reaches the 100-percent mark, any upward movement is worrying; two-thirds of the population is already overweight.
agenetically and physiologically, it should be impossiblea for all u.s. adults to become overweight, said dr. lan liang of the federal governmentas agency for healthcare research and quality, one of the researchers on the study.
FHN,
I think you have misunderstood me, I haven't only just lost weight.
Funny enough it was about three years ago i got down to between 205-210. I have put a bit back on since i have stopped drinking about 6 months ago, probably because it was easier to eat sweet stuff, to keep my mind off alcohol.
For the last 3 or 4 years i changed my eating habits, rather than dieting i decided to eat healthily. In that time i also changed my job, from one standing around to one where i am physically active. These two things together made me lose weight and keep it off.
Paul
updated 3:34 p.m. et aug. 6, 2008new york - if the trends of the past three decades continue, itas possible that every american adult could be overweight 40 years from now, a government-funded study projects.
the figure might sound alarming, or impossible, but researchers say that even if the actual rate never reaches the 100-percent mark, any upward movement is worrying; two-thirds of the population is already overweight.
agenetically and physiologically, it should be impossiblea for all u.s. adults to become overweight, said dr. lan liang of the federal governmentas agency for healthcare research and quality, one of the researchers on the study.
SL, any less than that i certainly wouldn't feel healthy. I feel good at around 205-210. I am large framed so i look and feel ok at that weight.
Paul