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  The Watchtower and Archaeology

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  insight book, volume 1, page 147 (published by jehovah's witnesses in 1988):.

  insight book, volume 1, page 959 (published by jehovah's witnesses in 1988):.

  god's word or man's book, page 65 (published by jehovah's witnesses in 1989):.

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  nameless_one

  Thanks for assembling this post, it was a very interesting and informative (and maddening LOL) read. As for the question:
  
  

  Why the switch? Why did Jehovah's Witnesses start distrusting archaeology so much and start claiming that it is only "weak" Christians who need archaeological evidence as a "crutch" to help support their "shaky" faith?

  
  Well, I imagine it's because this is no longer a field where they can "pick and choose" in a remotely credible way; the amassed knowledge has tipped and come to contradict their foregone premises more often than it supports it (and is now accessible and available to anyone who chooses to seek it out). When the body of knowledge grows and shifts such that typical JW picking and choosing can easily be shown to be absurd, the only thing left to do is attempt to discredit the entire field, either subtly or not so subtly. I suspect they will continue to pick and choose out-of-context snippets that fit their circular and ignorant arguments though, much like they have done and continue to do with other scientific issues such as evolution.
  
  Thanks again for compiling and posting this, it was well presented.
  
  Edited to say: Too many words! The short version of what I was trying to express here is, if the information doesn't fit with the JW conclusion, then the information is automatically branded as bogus, period. Which of course is exactly backwards.
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  This made me laugh:Tyson Homosexual wins Track Event

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/01/note-to-the-religious-right-auto-replace-is-not-your-friend/.

  note to the religious right: auto-replace is not your friendby: steve benen on tuesday, july 1st, 2008 at 12:01 pm - pdt auto-correct can be a very helpful feature of any word-processing program.

  but when conservatives use it, they run the risk of embarrassing themselves.. the american family associations onenewsnow website, for example, takes its ap articles and replaces the word gay with the word homosexual.

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  nameless_one

  LOL that is hilarious
  
  (Also, I am now curious about horrible life's story )
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  ~~~ the latest MLM: coming to a KH near you ~~~

  by chickpea in

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  early this morning, i headed out to .

  a "u-pick-em" strawberry farm .

  and lo and behold.... a "sister" .

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  nameless_one

  Multi Level Marketing
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  BROTHER RANDO... THE EXPERT, OR MAYBE NOT

  by whereami in

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  i found this very amusing.

  this guy claims to be of the annointed.

  michael and satan.

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  nameless_one

  Five minutes of clicking around this guy's posts makes it clear he is a nutjob, and kind of rude and nasty too!
  
  Also, why is he using Ray and CoC as a reference?
  
  

  Something interesting about this subject that others may not know: In these last days Jesus came to cause a division of families. (Mathew 10:34-37) In the "Crisis Of Conscience", Franz wrote about how difficult it was in leaving family members who refused to follow "Christ". (Matthew 10:36,37) Most have chosen their families rather than follow "Christ". But the one that endures to the end will be saved. (Mt 24:13)

  
  Maybe I am misunderstanding the context (or meaning) of that; I am not inclined to investigate further LOL.
  
  Anyway, it seems "Brother Rando" is a permanent and enthusiastic resident of the lunatic fringe
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  Looking for some help about marriage

  by Matt_fs in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hope this isnt a repost, couldnt find anything on the subject.. have a friend who is marrying a jw.

  he isn't a jw but she is (even though she doesnt really go or believe in it), her parents are strict jw's but wont goto their wedding cause of something about being unevenly yoked?

  now they both want her parents to go, but the parents tend to think they are not allowed to go.

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  nameless_one

  Condolences to your friend
  
  Technically this comes down to a "conscience matter," but what that really means is that it depends on what their elders are like and how hard-core the parents are. If the wedding is being held in a church, that complicates things further. Looking to the bible is an admirable thing, but it's not going to help you here -- you won't find anything spelled out there, and many of the JW "rules" don't come from the bible anyway.
  
  For the record, I think your friend is making a huge mistake. Whether or not the bride's parents attend the wedding is the least of, and only the beginning of, his problems. Does he fully know what he's getting himself into? If it's not too late, the best thing you can do for him as a friend is make sure he knows.
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  Sister, your husband is right because...

  by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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  hi all, i had to share this little tidbit i just learned of this week.. my elderly and disbaled father in law as you may remember is married to one grade - a bitch of an abusive wife/regular pioneer.

  she has been going three times per week to a variety of different local churches and collecting bread from their food-for-the-poor programs.

  now she is not poor.

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  nameless_one

  I don't have anything useful to share as far as your question, but this story has left my jaw hanging open! It is astonishing to me that these people are wrestling over whether or not this is appropriate based on what scriptures might say, or what the F&DS might say -- ummmm it's not appropriate by ANY standards at all, and it shouldn't take "instruction" to know that!
  
  This woman is trawling food banks and essentially stealing and hoarding food that is meant for those who genuinely need it, when she does not. This is wrong and disgusting all by itself! The fact that they don't get this at all speaks volumes, so good luck waking them up to much else if they can't grasp this very simple and basic concept.
  
  I'm sorry for your situation, I don't know how you hold your sanity having to deal with this kind of crap. Every time I think I have way too much JW craziness strangling me in my own life, I read something like this and realize it could be way worse. My two cents though, if your FIL doesn't see all of the other million things that are wrong with this scenario, I doubt the comment about the "slave's" ranking over God is going to help much.
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  Any Plans for the 4th?

  by Wordly Andre in

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  i'm going to the city celebration where i live, they put on an awesome show.

  what about you?

  will any of you celebrate for the first time this year?

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  nameless_one

  I will be enjoying BBQ, beer, and fireworks with friends and family, while my JW sits at home smugly boycotting the occasion. It's a tradition LOL.
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  My Wife's In The Hospital

  by Yizuman in

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  2. friends

  hello folks, .

  long time, no post .

  so we checked in the next day and got her in a room.

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  nameless_one

  How awful; that sounds very frightening, for both of you. I am sure it has been a comfort for your wife to have you at her side through all of this.
  
  Sending positive thoughts for both of you, and wishes for a smooth road to recovery.
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  "How to keep an idiot busy for 30 minutes."

  by Quirky1 in

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  john doe asked for this.. www.biglongnow.com

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  nameless_one

  The best is opening the doors part way, and stack them against each other.

  
  I did that too, and had them arranged like a pretty fan. But then they got stuck and I couldn't close or move them anymore so I quit.
  
  Is something supposed to actually happen? Or is it just an endless series of revolving doors?
  
  5 minutes was enough for me LOL.
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  Need help responding to a pioneer

  by megs in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posed the question to a pioneer who had been giving me bible studies.

  my question was quite simple: "in john 3:16, doesn't it say that whosoever believeth in him will have eternal life?

  my understanding of this scripture is that eternal life is given to all who believe in christ and believe he died to save sinners.

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  nameless_one

  Hi Nameless One... My JW friend got me interested in finding out more. To be honest, initially I found it appealing... ready made friends, study based worship. That being said, so far I'm not convinced, but I am willing to listen. I am not sure what I believe right now, so I've been exploring my options.

  
  Hi megs, thanks for the reply. I was (sort of) in your position a number of years ago, so your situation is interesting to me. It sounds like you are already very well-versed in the bible, and also well aware of the many problems and issues surrounding the WTS, so your journey is an interesting and informed one. I respect the willingness to listen, and the need to explore. I hope you'll keep us updated here about how things progress, and your observations on what you learn and experience.
  
  (Have to throw in the standard warning, though; I know you already know, but still: Be careful, and stay very aware of the indoctrination techniques. The WTS doesn't stand on doctrine alone, or at all frankly; it's the subtle altering of the thought process that allows the rest to "make sense.")
  
  Best wishes to you; again, I do hope you'll continue to share your experiences here.