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  Out of the mouths of babes

  by mrsjones5 in

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  this morning at the breakfast table my eight year old daugther asked if my mother went to church.

  i told her yes and they call it a kingdom hall.

  my oldest son (he's twelve) pipes in "yeah, it's a boring place.

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  Better watch out, that Harry Potter book might fly out of the KH!!!
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  my story

  by jaberwalkie in

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  2. friends

  this is a difficult thing for me to do, i used to be a jehovahs witness 20 years service as a pioneer.. last thursday it was announced from the platform at my local kingdom hall that i was disfellowshiped.. it was a bit of a shock.

  i still have a deep sence of anger at what happened to me and its so unfair.. it started 3 years ago when i began to feel ill and i missed a couple of meetings.

  the elders were wonderful and came round and cheered me up.

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  Welcome Jaberwalkie!

  Stick around here, you will begin to heal. Also I agree with Perry, and some of the other posters above, don't minimize the importance of getting professional help. Many people associated with jws either at present or formerly DO need this.

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  Wedding invitation

  by riverofdeceit in

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  i just received an invitation to my cousins wedding.

  he is a jw, and used to be a close friend.

  i am thinking about going to it, but i have a couple of issues.

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  ***You might also want to test the reaction you get if you do RSVP and say that you're coming to the wedding and reception. Just for fun, mind you. I find that when push comes to shove like that, JWs will usually "uninvite" you in a very awkward manner. "Hey, cousin... I hate to do this, but we really didn't expect you to come to the wedding... the invitation was, you know, just to be polite... but we have to cut back on the guest list ::laughs nervously:: there was a kind of mix-up with the caterer... and since you don't go to meetings anymore, it would just be better ... you know... people would be uncomfortable with you there and stuff... thanks for the gift though!"***

  Wow Scully, I had almost that exact experience just last Friday. After much consideration, I opted to RSVP in the positive for my cousins wedding. I called my Aunt's house, (a jw), whom of which sent out the invitations, and confirmed over the answering machine, but I asked her to call back because she did include a guest on the invite, and I wanted to see if I could bring my girlfriend. She did not call back, which I thought was odd, even for her. The next day, her husband, (non-jw at that), calls, and in so many words strongly hints it would be best if I didn't come! He really didn't know how to explain it, and I could sense he felt bad, but I was still shocked at just how low someone could go...My aunt didn't even have the courage to tell me herself! I guess it goes to show how quickly they can turn. Ouch!

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  Had dinner with some worldly friends, WTBTS is full of it

  by thecarpenter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just had dinner with some worldly friends and relatives and what a great time i had.

  it was sobering to think that i cut them out for so long and yet they are such nice people.

  we were conditioned to believe that they were bad influences and were demon possessed but actually are quite decent and church going people with real strengths and weaknesses like everyone else.

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  SirNose and Arthur,

  I couldn't agree more. I always found that almost every converstion I had with most dubs was at best, cautious, at worst, perfunctory. There were indeed, a FEW intellectual ones, and these ones were the ones I was most comfortable with, as well the ones I stayed good friends with. But far and wide, the biggest reason for not "widening out" as would be recommended, would be that just too many dubs lacked the ability to have an open, honest, and yes passionate converstation about anything other than the New System.

  The upshot of this, is that I blame much of my introverted personality on this. It definately stunted my ability to be easliy open to everyone, especially when discussing controversial subjects. Fortunately, during my adult life, college and my work have allowed me to overcome much of this, but it can still be a stuggle to this day. Very ironic, consdiering so much of what we were supposed to do as jws requires us to be extroverted.

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  Did the elders suggest in what area you "should" live?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember a time when there were new congregations and the elders told us that if some could move out in the country side about 25 miles away to that new congregation, it would encourage this new congregation that's just starting up and would need pioneers and qualified brothers.. i remember than atleast 25 in our congregation moved out there, just to show how fast a new congregation can be set up.

  it was as if god blessed this new congregation so rapidly.. i also remember the same period of time when the same elders made it known to us that moving into another congregation in this city wasn't well seen.

  afterall, we were formed in our local congregation and they needed us.

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  This was probably one of the early rules that I never abided by. My family, (mother,sister, and myself in org at the time), drove to a hall about 15 minutes away outside the territory. I stayed there, even after my mother went back to the "proper" hall. As an adult, the first home I purchased was outside of the territory of my hall, and continued going. Only during a brief 5 year peiod of my jw life did I ever actually live in my cong's. territory. I even had a book study in one of my homes outside of the territory, which was because the area in which I lived a number of jws also went to the hall I was going to.

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  Are dodge trucks more than just HEMIs?

  by IP_SEC in

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  is it just me or is dr. z (dieter zetsche) the coolest mofo around these days .

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  The Hemi thing has always been a controversial one in engineering circles. One is cost. When Chrysler first introduced the Hemi in the '50s, (the 392, I believe), all of the engines actually needed to be ran, disassembled, and re-assembled before they left the factory. The Hemi was first dropped from production in the early '60s because of this. Then, a few years later during the muscle car era, they were reintroduced, (426). This WAS becasue they had the ability to make more power than the conventional wedge head design. However, they will ALWAYS, (all else being equal), do this by requiring more fuel. That did not make sense in the gas-embargoed 1970s, hence it was dropped again until newer technologies made it more practical once again, (i.e. fuel injection, computers, etc).

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  A question for all those who were a witness in NY........................

  by vitty in

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  2. friends

  for someone who lived in the uk, brooklan was like rome is to a catholic.

  we all had strange ideas to what it was like.. so how was it for you who live in ny.

  did it "feel" more spiritual, cos the hq where there or did you take it for granted?.

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  ***Do they still have the sign "READ GOD'S WORD DAILY" on the building across from Brooklyn Bridge?***

  Yes.

  I spent most of my life in NJ near NY, (had Bethelites in two of my former halls, that would actually commute back and forth to Brooklyn). Although most jws who lived here really didn't feel anything special, I would often hear comments such as, "the farther you get away from Bethel, congos have more problems, etc). I always thought that talk was such BS, especially having lived in three other states, and having attended halls there. Another good one was (during delegate visits to Russia for the International Convention), that the delegates all had to stay dressed in suits and ties and women in dresses at all times because, to them (Russian jws), we were considered as "from a place so close to Bethel", we had to set an even "better" example.

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  I need some friendly support...

  by LuciousJ in

  1. jw
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  so, we left the org.

  back in december.

  i went & visited my mother in february & shared with her some of the research i had found.

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  I agree with the posters above. Someone got to your mom and "shook her up" a bit. Be patient, this will calm down.

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  Please allow me to introduce myself...

  by Asheron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please escuse the obvious stones lyrical referance but thats the first thing that came to mind.

  i am a 44 yo male fader from pennsylvania.

  been faded for 22 years or so and been lurking and reading all of your posts for 6 or so months.

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  Welcome, Asheron!

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  Are You Afraid That Armageddon Is Going To Come Since Leaving "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i'm not but i bet that there are some that quiety worry about it.....what about you?

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  ***I've been through enough personal "armageddon's" in life, that I'm finally done with wasting energy doubting myself, my worth or my ability to survive.***

  Agreed, and well said SpazNik!

  Greetings Tori, Nice post.

  btw: Can someone PM me on how to use the quote function? Thanks.

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