Posts by done4good

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

done4good

Clearly we can readily see that 3.5 times = 1260 days. By doubling both figures we can easily conclude that 7 times = 2520 days. Then by applying the day for a year rule we deduct that 7 times = 2520 years. Amazing as it may seem, it is 2520 years from 607BCE to 1914CE. Are the seven times of Daniel chapter 4 to be applied in connection with the Gentile Times and God's rulership?

First of all Thirdwitness, the very use of "a year for a day" rule is arbitrary here. Can you possibly shed some light on why the WTS chooses to apply this principle to this scripture but not others???

j

p.s. Your dogmatism is really growing old.

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Hiding from the reality

by KW13 in

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friends

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as a dub, were the days you doubted it was the truth, maybe even for a split second?.

i remember, i was always thinking about something related to that, wondering 'what if its not the truth'..

done4good

I would say the "seeds" of doubt were planted years ago, but I never really doubted until recently. When that fianlly happened, I began to research, and it did not take long for the tower to fall after that.

-No pun intended.

j

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The "Fade" - Evaluating A New Phenomenon

by slimboyfat in

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friends

to what extent has the growth of the "fade" been facilitated by internet forums such as this?

sure there were people who chose to fade in the pre-internet era, simply by withdrawing themselves, gradually involving themselves with non-witnesses to a greater extent, or getting in touch with other ex-witnesses covertly through the convention system/telephone and mailing support network that used to be more important before the advent of the internet.

so the "fade" is not an invention of the internet era, not en entirely "new phenomenon".

done4good

I have a good friend of mine, (still a jw), who was inactive back in the '80s, for about 8 years. Even after returning to the org, he still had many ideas that did not agree with the society, to say the least. I was relatively new to the org, (recently baptized), at the time, and I remember finding much of his beliefs at the time to be a bit "off" compared with the jws. Anyway, if we fast forward about 20 years, he's an elder, and I'm out of the org. Much of the seeds of doubt were planted in me during those days. If he had the internet available to him at the time, I am 100% certain, he would not be in the org today.

j

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It seems.......

by agapa37 in

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friends

that despite my sincere efforts of sincerity and honesty that most who interacted with me were rather uptight and rude.

i really dont understand it.

forgive my babbling.

done4good

Welcome, Agapa.

In fairness guys, there may be good reason why she is evading the "are you an active witness" question. Many jws that lurk, (and post), here know they can get into trouble if they were found out. Chilling out needs to go both ways buds.

j

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Are the "Last Days" an Absurdity? (8/15 WT)

by metatron in

how could anyone know objectively if they live in the "last days", if they fail to examine history?

how would anyone know if things were .

actually worse?

done4good

Excellent post, Met. This is one I will save.

j

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Agnostic or Atheist?

by done4good in

for all of you non-religionists out there: do you consider yourself an agnostic or atheist, and why?

it seems many ex-jws that "loose the faith" have a tendency to go straight for atheism.

i myself, would consider myself more of an agnostic, as i believe we have no real way of knowing if there is a god one way or the other, and it tends to seem just as extreme to me, to insist that there is not one.

done4good

Nice article startingover. Based on that understanding I would have to say I'm Atheist. I never really thought of it quite like that.

j

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Agnostic or Atheist?

by done4good in

for all of you non-religionists out there: do you consider yourself an agnostic or atheist, and why?

it seems many ex-jws that "loose the faith" have a tendency to go straight for atheism.

i myself, would consider myself more of an agnostic, as i believe we have no real way of knowing if there is a god one way or the other, and it tends to seem just as extreme to me, to insist that there is not one.

done4good

Nice article startingover. Based on that understanding I would have to say I'm Atheist. I never really thought of it quite like that.

j

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I Got The Phone Call Last Night - My Dad Died

by BrendaCloutier in

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friends

my mom called last night to tell me he passed on sunday.

he died peacefully and fairly painlessly.

my mom said she was talking with him, went to answer the phone, and 5 minutes later he was gone.

done4good

Brenda,

Sorry for your loss. You're taking it well though, hang in.

j

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Can we be honest?

by seahart in

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friends

ok, seriously people, can anyone here say they honestly enjoy las vegas?

what an utterly depressing place.

my wife and i went there for a "wedding".

done4good

I have only been there on business twice, (stayed at the Luxor and New York New York), and I would say it is a pain in the @$$. Can't find the registration desk when entering the hotel, can't find your way to the rooms, no coffee pot in rooms, (big no-no), no iron in rooms. No high speed internet, and phones hardwired to the wall, so you can't even use dial up. The place sucks.

j

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Baptized July 05. Left Dec 05.

by Moomin in

i have been lurking on these forums for about 6 months and thought it was time to join in.. i was a child/teen when i first became introduced to jehovah's witnesses through my mum who studied for a while but never fully committed.

i had a study and attended some meetings but it all petered out by the time i hit my late teens and we moved to another town.. for the following 10 years i just lived my life how i pleased.

got married etc.

done4good

Welcome Moomin!

I'm fairly certain that's a record. It took me 18 years.

j