Posts by done4good

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Love And Marriage Was The Watchtowers Way An Advantage?

by The wanderer in

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friends

love and marriage was the watchtowers way an advantage?the thought of one man and woman bonded through matrimony was always appealing.

the society used to stress chaperons, however, i think in todays day and age.

however, did the societys way prove helpful in certain respects?.

done4good

I think in a perfect world monogamous relationships are high up there on my list of ideals.
Unfortunately, in Watchtower World the strict enforcement of chastity prior to marriage sets people up for disappointment and frustration. I would have preferred the option to experiment sexually before making a lifelong commitment to someone. That way I would know what I could reasonably expect in the context of marriage.
The other thing that happens is that JW people "in lust" feel pressured to get married to avoid the sin of fornication - and sometimes make very poor choices in whom they marry, often before they know the person well enough to determine whether they are going to be in an abusive relationship. I feel that it would be better to allow them to be sexually active in the context of a long term relationship rather than force a commitment between two people who are not suited for each other.

Right on, Scully!

j

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Love And Marriage Was The Watchtowers Way An Advantage?

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

love and marriage was the watchtowers way an advantage?the thought of one man and woman bonded through matrimony was always appealing.

the society used to stress chaperons, however, i think in todays day and age.

however, did the societys way prove helpful in certain respects?.

done4good

While I believe marriage is generally a good thing, the WT's mitigation and legislation of dating and marriage seems to cause more problems than it solves. I can speak from experience in this department, (as many here also can). Nothing comes naturally in a jw marriage. I know of too many witness couples who are just plain unhappy. The ones that end up in divorce are usually the lucky ones. I say this because the lessons learned here often force one to critically and honestly look at the organization. Many leave the borg along with their marriage, (as I did).

j

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How much have you changed since you left the JWs..........

by fifi40 in

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the reason that i ask this question is for two reasons mainly.. firstly, my experience as a jw and within the various congregations i was part of, was that they were a very mixed bag.

there were those who were very devout, studious and appeared to be very humble and placid in nature.

there were those that were very judgemental of others.

done4good

As a dub, I was always somewhat in the middle of the road. I took many things seriously, (mostly, the stuff that really mattered), and was quite liberal in other areas, (I was much more down to earth, and preferred to associate with other jws that were). Too many things didn't add up in my life, then. These days, I'm still down to earth, but much happier. I've learned to enjoy the things I pretty much always enjoyed, just without any guilt now. Life makes a lot more sense this way.

j

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WILL THE WATCHTOWER EVER DO THE RIGHT THING AND APOLOGIZE?

by nvrgnbk in

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will this arrogant, presumptuous organization that has ruined so many lives, that loves to talk about humility and modesty, ever present a formal apology to all those who've suffered at their hands?.

would it really matter if they did?.

nvrgnbk .

done4good

guess they are so used to lying now, and getting away with their lies, that it's
become a habit, maybe even an addiction for them. They probably couldn't tell
the truth even if they wanted to.

Yes Trev, the very epitome of delusion.

j

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IT IS TIME FOR A___CONFESSION!

by Terry in

there is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.

(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.

) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.

done4good

I almost NEVER read through every post on a three page thread. I wasn't even going to open this one, really. This is absolutely the best thread I've read so far here. Terry, I can completely identify where you are comming from. I am an atheist, only because science seems to explain things in a way I can understand. There is so much more though. I wish I had all of that worked out, but for now, I take it day by day, man. Thank you all for some really wonderful posts! This made my day!

j

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I just registered as a blood donor!

by Crumpet in

on the 30 april i will be giving blood for the first time.

this seems to be a nice period of 1st for me:.

first tattoo.

done4good

Congrats, Crumpet!

This is on my to do list...

j

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1995 The Year That Saw A Turning Point

by The wanderer in

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friends

1995 the year that saw a turning pointduring the 1980s, the thought that this generation will not pass until all .

of these events occur was the watchtowers theme.

the countdown .

done4good

JW's making a comeback?
Well, I know some couples in the "TRUTH", that are specifically avoiding having children....atleast in this, "system".
I totally forgot that. 1995 was almost 12 years ago, so many couples realized that they had time to
have children in "this system of things." That makes those children 11 years old and slightly less.
That's prime time for baptizing them nowadays. They used to wait, but these kids will start getting
baptized (if not already) and there could be some positive numbers for the next 2 years.

Excellent point NotaNess and OTWO. I always thought it was just me who noticed that more jws were having children starting in the late '90s or so. It would make sense that as these approach baptism age, that at least some are getting dunked today.

j

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Fluff: What kind of music do you listen to?

by Guest with Questions in

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this is to be my one day off but i keep coming back here:.

i love a variety of music these are just a few of my favourites:.

not because im canadian but: neil young, joni mitchell, guess who (had a crush on burton cummings-(actually my husband and him looked a lot alike when they were young) gino vinelli,.

done4good

Van Morrisey

Is that a combination of Van Morrison and Morrisey, (from the Smiths), ???

j

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Fluff: What kind of music do you listen to?

by Guest with Questions in

jw
friends

this is to be my one day off but i keep coming back here:.

i love a variety of music these are just a few of my favourites:.

not because im canadian but: neil young, joni mitchell, guess who (had a crush on burton cummings-(actually my husband and him looked a lot alike when they were young) gino vinelli,.

done4good

Clapton, Cream, Doors, Led Zep, Sex Pistols, Clash, Elvis Costello, Genesis, Floyd, Radiohead, Nirvana, Green Day, Beatles, Good Rats, Talking Heads, ELO, Neil Young, Steely Dan, Boston, Rush, Bowie, etc...

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1995 The Year That Saw A Turning Point

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

1995 the year that saw a turning pointduring the 1980s, the thought that this generation will not pass until all .

of these events occur was the watchtowers theme.

the countdown .

done4good

Wanderer,

I don't know if I have a turning "point" per se, more like several 30 degree turns that ended up in a 180 in 2005. The first of which was learning of the 1975 debacle. My family had been "in" since '78 and I never heard a damn thing about this until around 1991 or so. It was quite shocking to me, actually. The 1995 generation change bothered me somewhat, but more just because the new explanation was, well, unexplainable. I felt the same way about the blood policy changes in 2000. I nearly left in '01, but didn't have the balls to until '05.

Jason