Very theraputic and healthy place. Makes leaving the borg much easier to handle, (not that there's much negative to that anyway).
j
i find this forum immensely therapeutic.
posters here have helped me with personal issues as well as historical, religious, evolutionary, etc.
i think this is the best psychiatric forum for xjws anywhere, kinda like my own personal shrink!.
Very theraputic and healthy place. Makes leaving the borg much easier to handle, (not that there's much negative to that anyway).
j
As a teenager, constantly, always for stupid things, such as playing tackle football. It stopped pretty much as an adult, until I began to have trouble in my marriage. Then I left.
j
i think everyone has a bs detector, but not everyone utilizes theirs, or ignores its warnings.. i find that mine seems very sensitive and unless i "feel" sincerity from the person i am sizing up, my bs detector has various levels of "alert" mode.. in "yellow alert" mode, i tend to be very guarded with personal information until the individual's behaviour identifies whether i should maintain that status quo or not.
this seems to be my default setting, i think, because i tend to use it with all new people i encounter.. in "orange alert" mode, there's something about the person that just is not meshing with me.
they may be trying to cross a boundary that i do not want them to cross, like bestowing a nickname on me without asking me if i'm ok with it first.
I think that many of us had much better detectors than we thought; but we didn't listen to them.
My thoughts exactly. In jwland, it was almost as if you weren't allowed to use it.
j
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i saw something on this subject a few years ago in a publication from brooklyn but can't find it now.
it referred to the 8/1/80 wt about what the greek word for apostasy really means, 'a standing away from', but showed that a person didn't have to share what he believed that differed from what the society taught to be df'd for it.. blondie!
I'm sure it's a fine line, but not likely. One would be more likely to be considered d/a'd by action, (ex. getting involved in politics). In the end it is the same thing, especially these days, as the announcement from the platform is the same "so and so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".
j
i had a lesion removed from my right cheek, just below the eye and to the right of my nose a week ago yesterday.
doc did it in the office and indicated he did not think it was malignant - but sop requires a path test to confirm.
it was malignant i was told today.
My thoughts are with you, Jeff. Don't worry excessively about it, the important thing is you already went to the doctor, and are getting it taken care of. Most skin cancers are highly treatable, and don't require long-term care, (ie chemo).
j
recently ive been doing a lot of research on judicial committees, as my friend is currently going through one, as mentioned here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/118972/1.ashx
i just posted an update.
one thing ive noticed in my research, is that there is no scriptural support to back up the judicial committee system.
All I can say is, until you've been the subject of one, you can't believe FOR SURE that they are all that bad. I can honestly tell you, when it occurs to you that those three elders have the ability to take your ENTIRE life away, (somtimes WANTING TO), you would be scared shit too. That experience spoke VOLUMES to me.
j
sure we got to know a lot of people, we knew a lot more people then the average person, but how many real friends did we ever have?
a friend that we could trust, that we could confine in.
i can say i had just one, bro x and even then i still had to be careful, bro x is an elder now and he tells me that im the only real friend hes ever had, he cant freely talk to anyone.
I have two who are still friends. One is inactive, and the other is an elder. They both are of the unconditional type, they were good friends in the org, and they remain good friends. But as far as anyone else goes, well...
j
why are departing jw's bitter?
i say the bitterness is directly proportional to the amount of emotional committment we made to their teachings.
if we accepted them wholeheartedly, the bitterness was immense as we discovered the lies and coverups, while getting the blame on the missed date predictions, and seeing the ever-increasing legalistic structure of the society, not to even mention the shunning by loved ones who still remain.
If I'm angry, I wouldn't say it's because of my situation. I came out OK when I left, and am more happier now than I've ever been. But, I have seen/can see to many lives wrecked over the WTS dogma. This is very, very sad, and is making me more and more want to become an "active" apostate.
j
the recently distributed tract "you are cordially invited to attend the 'deliverance at hand!
' dc of jws" invited people to mail in a coupon requesting the publication "what does the bible really teach?
the coupon had two check boxes:without obligation, i request a copy of the book what does the bible really teach?please contact me concerning a free home bible study.. given that the coupons would be mailed to local congregations with a covering letter from the branch requesting that the householder be visited with the book and the offer of a home bible study, was there really any difference between the two question?
writers of WT literature are now incapable of distinguishing the unvarnished truth from flasehood.
aka:delusional.
j
Actually FWIW, the writings of Josephus, (yes, he was Jewsih, so probably biased), give fairly detailed evidence of the greater blame being that of the Romans.
j