Posts by done4good

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What can 25,000 members on this board do?

by The wanderer in

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what can 25,000 members on this board do?have you ever wanted to do something really great and re-.

ceive recognition for it?

one thing that many of us on this board have in common is .

done4good

Network/telecom engineering. Programming and DBA stuff. Good with anything technical. Have to admit though, I'm not too big on the idea of "organizing" anything. Someone would need to sell me pretty hard on that.

j

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The Memorial...

by Justice-One in

does anyone still go to the memorial?

i was just thinking that although i made it quite clear to my wife that i was not going to go to anymore meetings or conventions (i made a comment about not wanting to be there when the kool-aid came out) that i caught myself thinking the other day that i might go to the memorial just to keep her happy.

but then i thought why?

done4good

It really depends. I would say if your wife already knows your true position, then don't go. It's the whole "actions speak louder" thing. She may well interpret it as you still think they have the truth, even if you say otherwise. OTOH, if you only recently stopped going to meetings, and she does not know your actual stance on the organization, it may prove to be a way of supporting the gradual fade better.

j

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--- A Question for ALL Atheistic ex-Dubs----

by gordon d in

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friends

which child is wiser?

while starting a hunt for easter eggs one child runs to a big tree and finds nothing then that childs brother says, go look under that rock i promise youll find one there!

the child throws down their basket and says, i give up!

done4good

but please, don’t pull anyone else down into your hopelessness with you!

I haven't had time to read this whole thread yet, so my apologies if this statement has been clarified, but I'M ANYTHING BUT HOPELESS!

Jason V.

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Letter from a dear friend and elder.

by AK - Jeff in

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i had sent dale a copy of my da letter, and a personal one.

i showed only kindness, though disgust with the organizations' moral bankruptcy and doctrinal miscues.

yet the robotic mind sees all things in a twisted light of god/organization.

done4good

(((Jeff)))

I know this hurts. I have much of the same going on right now with family/friends. But I'm with you, don't waste the stamp.

Jason

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What do you think about gays and abortion now.......................?????

by vitty in

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friends

when you saw the wt for what it was and realized it was not the truth, how did that affect your thoughts on subjects like homosexuality or abortion for example.. did you start to think differently suddenly or did it take a long time ?.................or maybe you havent changed your minds on what the wt condemns.. i was quite shocked at how i accepted my teenage son was sexually active and i talked to him about condoms and this being an important thing in his and gfs life and where they sure they were ready.

i didnt tell him not to do it !.

actually i think i always had my thoughts on different subjects that werent in line with the org, i just pushed what i really thought to the back of my mind.. there are many different subjects name one that you relate to.. .

done4good

While, I would not condone an abortion, (say, in the case of my girlfriend), I do believe it is a personal choice. I have no issue with gays whatsoever. My future sister in law is gay, and a wonderful person.

j

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Why Jehovah's Witness do not want to see the flaws within the religion

by The wanderer in

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friends

why jehovah's witness do not want to see the flaws within the religion a friend's thread inspired this topic of discussion because it was about.

a week or two weeks ago that this conversation came up during a re-.

cent telephone call.. the jehovah's witnesses perspective on the matter on a number of occasions, i recall getting into arguments with my.

done4good

How can you reason or show a Jehovah's Witness
that there religion is wrong without it becoming
an emotional contest?
How did you separate your emotions from your
intellect to arrive at your present conclusions
regarding the organization?

I'll answer these in reverse order. I was only able to make a successful "separation" of intellect and emotion concerning the organization only after enough tough lessons in life taught me that what I was being taught just didn't seem "right". Not that I didn't have doubts about many things long before that, as I assuradly did, it's was a matter of coming to a point in life where I just began to "know" WITHOUT even realizing it. At that point of really "knowing" something was wrong, only then could I begin to look objectively at the facts.

So to answer the first question, reasoning with a true believing jw is ALMOST impossible, unless they themselves have already come to certain conclusions within. I pick and choose carefully those jws that I intend to present any conclusions to. IF they appear "ready", due to marital failure, disfellowshipped loved one, etc, then it is quite easy to present facts, without fear of being shut out.

j

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Please Send Any Positive Thoughts My Way on Wednesday!

by XJW4EVR in

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friends

i will be interviewing for a position at the university of southern california.

the pay is not going to be that good to begin with, but i have mitigating factors, my son who is a junior this year, can get in and i won't have to pay a dime towards his tuition.

his dream is to go to usc and to play for the usc marching band.

done4good

Here come the thoughts...., (hey it's dinner time and I'm getting hungry).

j

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This discussion board is just the medicine I needed

by Backed away in

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a big thank you to those who created this board and for all the amazing people who post here.. truth be told (no pun intended) i have seen other religious boards out there but never felt compelled to join since i didn't feel qualified to speak one way or the other regarding their beliefs.

this board is another story.

i was raised as a witness but never thought so many people all over the world had a similiar past as i did.

done4good

Welcome backed away! How good it feels to be out of that mess!

j

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What Do People Hate Most About JWs???

by minimus in

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i think most "worldly" people consider jws a nusiance---especially on a saturday morning!

they hate being bothered by peddlers at their door.

some people can't stand the witnesses' smugness and self righteous attitude.

done4good

I remember being told by the po after I had handed my da letter in that I have a duty to infform any jw who tried to speak to me of my status as da'd so that they don't try to pursue a conversation with me.

That's what I hate the most. How delusional and arrogant they are. They seem to think that anyone who leaves the org must "know" it's the truth, and leaves for selfish reasons. What bullshit.

j

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Beards, when were they banned?

by GramblingMan in

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friends

i know it has been talked about before, but does anyone have information as to when jw started banning beards.

my wife is telling me that it started in the 60/70's because of the hippies, but i know i read somewhere on here that it was much earlier.. .

done4good

Towards the end of my time "in", I grew my beard several times, (my ex-would always make me shave it off, though). I do remember a KH remoldeling we did, (in 2002, w/o RBC), where all of the elders grew goatees and beards during the construction period. How rediculous that "no beard" policy was.

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