just a few notes.
the entire ass-embly was dealing with materialism or higher education; apparantly one leads to the other.
why cant the wts realize that higher education is not just a means to get rich or ahead in this system, but a means to have a career outside of janitorial work?
I have not been to the assembly in years but went to the public talk last sunday(im a mommas boy) and it was one of those STORE YOUR TREASURES IN HEAVEN NOT ON EARTH talks. It harped and harped on how some brothers and sisters should rethink their prioritys and focus on the afterlife.
Its such recylcled drivel. But noone there sees it.
hi everyone, just wondering what your thoughts are on people that say they are born gay?
ive heard that this isnt actually possible, and that there is no scientific backing to it, im personaly not gay but i was just wondering what some of you think on this matter, and if you have anything to back it up with, thanks,.
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This is such a dumb thread. Why would someone choose to be gay? Its not like its easier or something.
PEOPLE ARE BORN GAY!!!! JUST ACCEPT IT
"ex-christians are angry because they are grieving... i voluntarily spent 10 years of my life pursuing a godly life.
my fantasy was that i was spending my time well and becoming a better person by following god.
my grief over wasting 10 years of my life, is grief over giving up the fantasy.".
I am flabbergasted that they've been here all along and I didn't think to look for them... I've been out 8 years... was I still in denial somehow?
I am a similar situation with you. I was out for 8 years as well before I found this board and it was a little much to handle.
Have you read Crisis of Consience yet?
my mother found some old jw records a couple of months ago, they apparently were what the dubs used to use when they were witnessing, theyd go out with a record player and play these records to people to preach to them.. just wondering if anyone else has any of these?
im guessing theres probly not that many of them around, i think i have about 6 or so of them and they are quite old, (im at work at the moment so i cant really tell you any more about them) i was thinking that i mite sell them on ebay, maybe ill get a bit of cash for them.. .
sam87..
Sorry not interested.... You got any Floyd on vinyl?
dear members,.
i am so glad to have found you!
i left the congregation about eight years ago after a very traumatic experience (several, actually).
Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz is what helped me get back my sanity when I was at the point you are right now. I and I'm sure most others would highly recomend it to anyone seeking answers about the top of the organizatioin
naperville, dekalb, joliet......... il.
i tried to bump an old thread on this topic, but i couldn't find it.. anyone?
beuller?.
Verona, NJ
Nutley, NJ
Stroudsburg, PA
Tannersville, PA
State College, PA
i would like to know if it just requires an elder to send in something to update your records.
i have been very stressed out lately....thinking about my 8 year old shunning me just about kills me.
i da'd myself quite a while ago (7yrs) and i wish i could have somehow faded.
I was dfed in 98 for "fornication". Since then I have gotten married and my mother was trying to get me reinstated. I should say that even though I was d'fed in 98 I randomly attended meetings throughout the last 8 years to basically keep my mother happy. My mother told the elders that I was married and they insisted upon meeting with me. They asked what my intentions were at the meetings and I said (as I was instructed by people on this board) that I wanted to have a relationship with Jehovah again. They then asked if there was anything else in my life that would keep me from becoming a jdub againa and i said no. They then said that they would expect a letter from me soon.
I have not written the letter yet because I am somewhat nervous about being reinstated. Mainly I don't want them interfering with my life. i just figured I'd let you know that it might not be as complicated as going to meetings for 6 months. Good luck.
what's your favourite board game?
i'm asking because i want to go out tomorrow and buy a new one.
my kids have re-discovered that they can be a lot more fun than ps2 games and of course it's something we can all play together on a more sociable level.
My wife and I love to play Othello (sometimes called turncoat).
Growing up my favorite board game was definetely Risk. It can take hours to play though.
We also like Taboo, or Balderdash when we have friends over. They're very social games and I agree with you that they are more fun than video games even though I love video games.
this was inspired by another thread, where freetosee told of a young witness baptised at the tender age of 9, and disfellowshipped at age 12!!!
the mind goes wild at what a 12-year-old should ever be disfellowshipped for.
how would a kid be so unrepentant they would deserve losing their family and friends?
I myself was baptized at 15 and D'fed at 17. (I just couldn't hold out any longer). My father who is an "unbeliever" talked with the elders dealing with my case at the time about how my baptism shouldn't count because I was a minor but they wouldn't hear of it. I totally got baptized to fit in with all of the other people around me who were pressuring me. After that my father made a rule that my brothers and sisters weren't allowed to get baptized. My sister didn't get baptized until 20 and my brother is a minor apostate so it kind of worked.
so who do you think will win the ws?.
jourles, of the rabid cardinal nation since '85 class.
Dont start Jinxing the Mets
