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  Exciting News!!!!! Helping Step by Step

  by coffee_black in

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  i have posted the beginning of this story a while back.

  my 14 year old grandson founded helping step by step to call attention to the plight of homeless children in this country.

  he will walk from orlando fl to washington dc this summer, living as close as possible to how a homeless child lives.

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  jakes

  That is excellent coffee. Good on your grandson!

  jakes
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  Hello everyone

  by african GB Member in

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  i am african gb member, i have just joined, looking forward to contributing to discussions on this forum.. .

  thank you in advance for welcoming me on board.. african gb member.

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  jakes

  Welcome AGBM

  Enjoy your stay!

  jakes
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  South Africa. Court saves JW girl's life

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
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  it seems as if the courts in south africa are taking a hard line stance on children of jehovahs witnesses and blood transfusions.

  court saves jehovah's witness girl's life20 february 2009, 06:13. by kanina foss.

  a 12-year-old jehovah's witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a johannesburg high court order gave doctors the go-ahead.. .

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  Yep, it seems as if this has picked up momentum people. I have been contacted by a TV and movie producer in the US who is willing to do what he can too expose the JWs here in SA. The message has also been passed around on facebook. Bill Bowen has aso received the message.

  The more people we get to respond the better.

  Keep those e-mails going folks

  Robin Jackson
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  South Africa. Court saves JW girl's life

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
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  it seems as if the courts in south africa are taking a hard line stance on children of jehovahs witnesses and blood transfusions.

  court saves jehovah's witness girl's life20 february 2009, 06:13. by kanina foss.

  a 12-year-old jehovah's witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a johannesburg high court order gave doctors the go-ahead.. .

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  jakes

  Thanks guys.

  Yes, the [email protected] addy works.

  I have just spoken to the ex-JW friend of mine who did the editing for that story and he is on board as well.

  Robin
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  South Africa. Court saves JW girl's life

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
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  it seems as if the courts in south africa are taking a hard line stance on children of jehovahs witnesses and blood transfusions.

  court saves jehovah's witness girl's life20 february 2009, 06:13. by kanina foss.

  a 12-year-old jehovah's witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a johannesburg high court order gave doctors the go-ahead.. .

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  jakes

  Okay folks,

  Here it is. The person to e-mail is Peter Moyo who is one of the producers of the show. Peter's e-mail is [email protected].

  I suppose Debra Patta's e-mail will be along the same format. On the website Debra's e-mail goes to [email protected].

  Let's send in as many as we can folks and see if we can get coverage on this issue. Feel free to mention the other issues in your e-mails such as the peadophile scandals, organ transplants etc. apart from the blood issue. Those are the topics that the general public will be interested in.

  I will see if I can get Bill Bowen from Silentlambs to e-mail as well. He has already mentioned to me that if we need help here in SA we can contact him.

  Best of luck.

  Robin Jackson
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  South Africa. Court saves JW girl's life

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems as if the courts in south africa are taking a hard line stance on children of jehovahs witnesses and blood transfusions.

  court saves jehovah's witness girl's life20 february 2009, 06:13. by kanina foss.

  a 12-year-old jehovah's witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a johannesburg high court order gave doctors the go-ahead.. .

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  Agent Smith, Loubelle,

  I will post the e-mail address later. Maybe we can get more people from JWN to e-mail. That way they can see that this is an issue affecting people worldwide and not just here in South Africa.

  jakes
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  South Africa. Court saves JW girl's life

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems as if the courts in south africa are taking a hard line stance on children of jehovahs witnesses and blood transfusions.

  court saves jehovah's witness girl's life20 february 2009, 06:13. by kanina foss.

  a 12-year-old jehovah's witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a johannesburg high court order gave doctors the go-ahead.. .

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  Loubelle

  I was thinking the very same thing. If they get enough e-mails maybe they will consider it. An ex JW friend of mine actually edited that story for the SABC news. I can speak to him as well.

  Let's lift the lid a bit more here in South Africa.

  jakes
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  South Africa. Court saves JW girl's life

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems as if the courts in south africa are taking a hard line stance on children of jehovahs witnesses and blood transfusions.

  court saves jehovah's witness girl's life20 february 2009, 06:13. by kanina foss.

  a 12-year-old jehovah's witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a johannesburg high court order gave doctors the go-ahead.. .

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  jakes

  It seems as if the courts in South Africa are taking a hard line stance on children of Jehovah’s Witnesses and blood transfusions.

  Court saves Jehovah's Witness girl's life

  20 February 2009, 06:13

  By Kanina Foss
  
  A 12-year-old Jehovah's Witness girl has received a life-saving blood transfusion that she did not want after a Johannesburg High Court order gave doctors the go-ahead.
  
  The girl, who suffers from leukaemia, was admitted to Chris Hani-Baragwanath Hospital on Tuesday. Despite being told that a blood transfusion was needed to save her life, the girl and her parents refused to consent to the procedure.
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses believe that it's against God's will to take other people's blood, or one's own blood that has been stored, into one's body.
  
  The official website of Watchtower, a Jehovah's Witness organisation to which The Star was referred by the Jehovah's Witnesses of South Africa, says: "True Christians will not accept a blood transfusion. They want to live, but they will not try to save their life by breaking God's laws."
  
  The Gauteng Department of Health said doctors consulted the girl's parents and church elders to explain the need for the transfusion. When their explanations were rejected, they brought an urgent application before the High Court on Wednesday.
  
  The court order was issued on the same day, and the girl was given a transfusion immediately.
  
  According to Department of Health spokesperson Phumelele Kaunda, the parents respected the court's decision.
  
  The girl is doing well.
  
  SA Human Rights Commission chairperson Jody Kollapen said that in such cases, the right to life took precedence over the right to religion.
  
  He said adults were regarded as fit to make informed decisions about their own bodies, but in the case of a child, state intervention was sometimes necessary.
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses argue that there are often alternatives to a blood transfusion, and they want to be allowed to consider other options.
  
  They base their beliefs on biblical text such as Acts 21, verse 25: "As for the believers from among the nations, we have sent out, rendering our decision that they should keep themselves from what is sacrificed to idols as well as from blood and what is strangled and from fornication."
  
  In November, the Pietermaritzburg High Court granted an urgent order authorising a blood transfusion for a four-day-old baby boy who was born 15 weeks premature. His Jehovah's Witness parents had refused to give their consent, despite a prognosis from the doctor involved.

  • This article was originally published on page 2 of The Star on February 20, 2009

  http://www.thestar.co.za/?fSectionId=&fArticleId=vn20090220054001117C891248

  jakes
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  Family is shunning us.

  by AgentSmith in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  mrs smith and i have faded away for many years.

  we knew the day will come that we would be questioned directly what our stand is.. this past holidays we were confronted by our jw family.

  we told them the truth, we are not jw's anymore and that we go to any church that strikes our fancy.

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  Hey AgentSmith

  Hang in there. It gets better. Believe me.

  Robin
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  Jehovah's Witnesses,Blood and South Africa

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the refusal by jehovahs witnesses to accept life-saving blood transfusions is one issue that constantly throws the organisation into the spotlight.

  blood transfusions have been banned by the jehovahs witnesses, whether it be whole or fractional, since 1945. the technicalities surrounding this issue even confuse many die-hard witnesses as this doctrine is in a constant state of flux.

  many are not sure what is acceptable practice and what not.. .

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  Hi Louise

  Here are the links to both those stories in South Africa. One was in Port Elizabeth and the other was in Pietermaritzburg.

  http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2354217,00.html

  http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global[_id]=15737

  Earnest I will post the references to those dates and the changes soon.

  AgentSmith I am glad you enjoyed my book.

  Robin