Posts by SirNose586

the caller told me it was announced from the platform that if a person is not attending the meetings on a regular basis active witnesses should not be associating with them.

Not long ago, I explained my fading to my old JW friends, or should I say ex-friends. They weren't really judgmental and it seemed to be a pretty amicable meeting. They promised to keep the lines of communication open, provided I wasn't df'd. It sounded fine. But I'm under no delusion that these ex-friends will make good on their words. In fact, I just dipped into a Wal-Mart recently and got a quizzical look from an old dub acquaintance. So maybe I am starting to stink to them already!

And since that meeting with them, not a one has called me to go get some tacos or anything. What they said wasn't true, and I knew it.

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Stabbed JW beliefs may have let suspect killer go free

by Rabbit in

SirNose586

Another victim indirectly killed by Borg directive. It really doesn't need to be this way. I'm glad these news stories just highlight how crazy the JW blood law is.

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Will my pet lion die?

by peacedog in

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friends

hey just wondering, when i get my pet lion in the new system,tm am i going to have to suffer the loss of my beloved pet?.

i recently lost my pet and being an animal lover, let me tell you, i took it pretty hard.

lots of "tears" along with plenty of "mourning" and "outcry" and "pain"... .

SirNose586

It's kind of like that little kid question: "Will my dog go to heaven?"

Here's the deal as I understand it: in the New System TM , you're not immortal, you just live until something else could kill you. You're like the Highlander. So apparently the DNA that Jehoober Intelligently Designed TM will have to get Intelligently Reworked TM . One of the hypotheses about the purpose of telomeres in the DNA is that if the cell were to keep dividing without end (because telomeres protect the DNA replication process from harmful proteins, yet eventually become clipped off), the more likely it would become cancerous. But cancer only exists because of sin, which should be gone--and perhaps, a little UVA and UVB cooking, and mutagenous chemicals. Okay, let's leave the chemicals out. Jehoober is going to have to turn the sun's light down a little. So much for the Intelligently Designed TM and fine-tuned sun shining just enough to keep us alive without introducing errors into the DNA replication process. Or maybe he can get around to Intelligently Designing TM skin that's UV ray resistant, or a DNA replication process that is better than, on average, 1 error per several billion base pairs. At any rate, he'll have to Intelligently Rework TM his original plan. Maybe that's why he said it was "good" and not "perfect" or "excellent."

Anyway, back to the lions and other animals. Now animals will all be given jobs as playmates. Never mind the need to acquire energy through eating native plants and other animals. Apparently Jehoober will have them gather at his magic feed bag of endless hay so they may eat. Of course, he'll have to Intelligently Redesign TM their digestive systems, vitamin synthesizing, and protein synthesizing abilities to accomodate this water and hay diet. He'll also have to Intelligently Redesign TM their teeth--no need for sharp canines and incisors. They'll all need flat teeth for grinding, much like humans have. He'll also have to Intelligently Retool TM their killer instinct, which keeps them in harmony with their natural surroundings.

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Kelle Jarka (jw elder) found guilty and sentenced Friday for murdering jw wife

by blondie in

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i wonder if he will be df'd....probably not.. http://www.swrnn.com/southwest-riverside/2009-11-04/news/jarka-case-murrieta-man-expected-to-be-sentenced-friday-for-murder-of-wife.

jarka case: murrieta man expected to be sentenced friday for murder of wife.

posted by jose.arballo on november 4, 2009 @ 2:22 pm in courts, crime, local news, news | 1 comment.

SirNose586

The circumstancial evidence made him look pretty bad. But remember folks, it's all about what you can prove, and how much doubt you can input. The defense couldn't even put a "shadow of a doubt" in the heads of the jury.

What doesn't look good for Jarka is that the alternative doesn't really seem probable....someone breaks into the home and decides to kill her using a blunt object? Why not a gun? Why do it in broad daylight? Why wouldn't she just submit and let him take the stuff, as JWs are trained to do? Wouldn't a thief's best interest lie in just grabbing the loot and leaving? I don't think Murrietta is a high-crime area--or at least, an area where this sort of violent crime is bound to happen.

The bottom line with my questions is that I really don't think his explanation had a considerable probability of occurring. I don't know enough about the area to make a better judgment. But the evidence--despite its circumstancial nature--doesn't make him look good.

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What Happens After You Leave?

by Cold Steel in

i'm not a witness, but i have to ask..... what happens after you leave?

do you turn against all religion or do you find another?

people say they're happy when they leave...that they feel free, but i'd hate to think that people give up on everything religious.. if you do stay religious, how many doctrines of the jws do you retain?

SirNose586

I'm not looking for another church. The JWs have what seems to be a distinctly emotionless form of Christianity--there are no spontaneous outpourings of emotion at meetings, you're not supposed to be swayed by emotion, or any real feeling of spirituality. Therefore growing up in the church just felt like a big game of "follow the rules." Quote this scripture, knock on this door, attend these meetings, stay out of trouble, and you'll be okay. You should also pray incessantly--but to what? I never felt anything.

That's why I'm not seeking another church. I never had a good concept of God. I can thank the JWs for that.

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Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?

by flipper in

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i thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.

the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.

so what is your story and reasons ?

SirNose586

After I was pressured to disassociate in mid '07, I knew at that point that I probably wouldn't be in the org for much longer. But I wanted to keep the status quo, so I kept at the meetings. I could only keep up the charade until two years later. This summer, I couldn't take it anymore and I stopped going to meetings. I've not been to one in three months exactly (tomorrow)! And I never want to come back.

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Amway

by bobld in

everybody has heard of amway but few are joining.everyboby has heard of jehovah's witnesses but few are joining.both use deceptive tactics to recruit new members.. bob.

SirNose586

I'm glad I never got sucked into those pyramid schemes. When I was first looking for work, I'd attend job fairs. I was always targeted by young men working for these pyramid groups. They'd be like, "Hey yo, how much did your old boss make? Does he drive a Porsche/Mercedes? Wanna be free from bosses forever?" and so on, and so forth. Being more annoyed than curious, I'd always rebuff them. But the opportunity to be sucked into those scams was always present.

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The homeless sister and the $60,000 RV

by HappyGuy in

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i was in a congregation once which had a large number of desperately poor people in it.

there was an elderly sister, she lived near me, a sweet woman, who became homeless because her ramshackled old house caught fire.

around that same time one of the overseers (imagine that using a slavery term), i forget if it was district or circuit overseer, came to town wanting a new rv/truck combo.

SirNose586

Great story, HappyGuy. At least the poor sister got what she needed from "worldly" people. Her own brothers couldn't be tasked with caring for one of the lowly amha'arets!