Posts by SirNose586

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JWs on Seinfeld

by KingDavidwasframed in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cocec5b1m8y.

SirNose586

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoCEc5B1M8Y

Actually, the sidebar says it's a parody of the Church of Bible Understanding.

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Did you get hit with the "There is nothing better out there" argument?

by lepermessiah in

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i wish i had a dollar for everytime i heard that lately.. "your concerns are very valid, but there is nothing else out there".

"well, its not perfect - but i'm telling you, there is nothing else out there".

"yes, the organization is full of problems, but you have to understand - there is nothing else out there".

SirNose586

I always herd the line: "even if its not the truth, this is the best way to live" i herd that since i was a kid not even questioning anything. i would wonder why they would even say "even if its not the truth". i would herd it from pioneers and everything.

Sky

The best way to live? How?

By delaying your dreams for some magical time in the future when over 99% of humanity is dead?

By getting depressed over your physical maladies while you wait for some magical cure to fix you?

By spending your valuable time handing out propaganda to strangers?

By numbing your mind in time-wasting meetings?

By beating yourself up over the recreation you'd really like to enjoy, the way you spend your time, the sexual fulfillment you wish you could have, or the career you'd really like to begin?

By spending (at least in my area) three days baking out in the sun every year in suits just to get a recycled book and hear recycled talks? And doing nearly the same for the CAs and SADs?

By being hounded by others about your personal life?

By asking for permission to date someone, and then undergoing constant scrutiny from others about your personal details?

By being subject to petty clique issues, slander, and gossip?

Uhhh...how is that the "best way to live" again???

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Watchtower building now a college dorm

by recovering in

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i thought it was profoundly ironic , in view of the witnesses anti-education stance that one of their buildings is now a collegw dorm.. http://www.brooklyneagle.com/categories/category.php?category_id=5&id=33701.

former watchtower building in brooklyn now occupied by college students.

by linda collins ([email protected]), published online 02-22-2010. .

SirNose586

Good. Now those buildings can be used to support real education, instead of the fake "worldwide Bible education work" we used to have to tell the householders about.

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I Hate This Game!

by Aeiouy in

aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggghghghghghghhhhh!.

i'm slightly frustrated.

about a month ago, i lost the most amazing girl i've ever known.

SirNose586

I can't say I know exactly what you're going through, but I can feel your pain to a large degree, Aeiouy.

I remember the first girl I went after when I stopped going to meetings. I'd been reading a relationship advice book called The Game and talking about its content with a couple friends, so I felt ready to try my first stab at seriously trying to meet non-JW girls. Mind you, I was about as socially backward in that area as one can get. I'd had no secret girlfriends because the org said not to. All my efforts to meet a JW girl didn't work. I had no experience in what to do, but I felt the need to press forward.

I met "Brandy" at a karaoke bar with some friends. She was fit and attractive; the first night meeting her went very well, I thought. We met again with the same group of friends the next week, and it seemed she really had a thing for me. I interpreted her signs as indicators of interest in me. Later that night, we hung out at a friend's house, and a really turned on the flirting. I made my move. Oops! Too fast, too soon; I got shot down somewhat. Later she apologized for flirting and I accepted her apology. Oops! Wrong move, again. We all ended up sleeping over at the friend's place, and in the morning, she seemed somewhat distant towards me. Two weeks later we went out again, and I was informed that she wasn't interested in sleeping with me, even though I'd never brought up the subject. But I eventually figured out what went wrong. Her indicators of interest were just drunk flirting; she did that with lots of guys. And, as it turns out, Brandy was good practice to make some rookie mistakes on, because right now she's in Kansas.

Things right now are better than they've ever been, even though the progress is slight. I have a friend with limited benefits--not a genuine girlfriend, but close enough. She was my first real kiss at age 24--so think about that! It just all worked out, even though I have no leverage to speak of in any category. But this friend with limited benefits has been tolerant enough to let me figure out things I should have figured out about 8 or 9 years ago when it comes to girls, so the situation is just fine by me.

Aeiouy, you've been given very good advice, to which I will add more: have financial leverage. I don't know what kind of work you do, but hopefully it's something that allows you to make a decent living. It gives you so much more of an advantage when you give off "provider" status signals, you wouldn't even believe...

But yes, being raised a JW makes you sooo awkward when it comes to "game," just try not to let it get to you too much. Work on making your money, and making yourself buff. I'm at least getting the second part right.

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Do you have a Jezebel photo?

by feenx in

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alright, so i am sharing some fun tidbits with my fiance about things i remember as a kid growing up.

we were trying to remember the woman from the old testament who murdered a king (she went to a christian school so we both got hammered with the bible) and we couldn't.

inevitably when you're talking about any women from the old testament jezebel comes up.

SirNose586

Gee, even the whore of Babylon is ginger too.

I'm not surprised. Redheads are naughtier--at least that's been my experience.

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Historic Turning Point After Century in Brooklyn, Watchtower Pulls Out of Heights

by Dogpatch in

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downtown brooklyn its definite.

rumors can be laid to rest.

the watchtower bible & tract society is moving its headquarters out of brooklyn heights and up to warwick, n.y.. we have submitted a proposal to the town of warwick to build a complex there that were calling the world headquarters of jehovahs witnesses, richard devine told the eagle tuesday.

SirNose586

Good idea, for them. Now they'll be even further away from their neighbors' scrutiny, and subsequently the public eye.

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Jehovah's Witnesses - The 2nd Poorest Religion

by Elsewhere in

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http://awesome.good.is/transparency/web/1002/almighty-dollar/flat.html.

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SirNose586

It appears that they are second to historically black churches.

I recall a long time back someone told me that a great number of people who wind up becoming Jehovah's Witnesses tend to be former Baptists of predominately black churches. Of course, he provided no data to validate it but I do recall a recent thread on this forum where the witnesses are referred to as the scientology for black people.

The "Scientology for black people" comes from The Daily Show. I agree with the observation because it seems there's a lot of black celebrity JWs (Prince, Larry Graham, the Williams sisters, Omarion, George Benson, etc.).

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Self-righteous JWs - how much a product of the WTBTS

by dozy in

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i was discussing the presence of unpleasant self-righteous jws ( aka jerks ) within the congregation recently with a family member recently.

my contention is that such individuals occur at least partly as a result of the influence of an organisation that stresses works above christian qualities, encourages a defensive attitude and has a dogmatic , condemnatory attitude towards people outside the group and other religions.

the family member contended that the wts often encouraged followers to put on the new personality ,and condemned such a self-righteous spirit.

SirNose586

They're self-righteous because they can't even trust people within their own congregation! One pioneer family in my former congregation was a good example of the rampant paranoia. The parents never let their kids spend any time at other JW kids' houses unless they were there to personally shelter supervise them. Comments were made from the aunt (the father's sister) about how certain JWs were going to be killed in the GT, all to the nodding approval of the P.O.

The young people are constantly concerned about cliques. It's all about who's offended whom, who isn't worthy of certain invites, and so on. It's sickening. I'm constantly amazed by how non-cliquish all my newer friends are...

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Memorial 2010! How many jws will partake? or SHOULD partake?

by justmom in

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answer..... all of them!.

they pride themselves on being "the truth" ( which belongs only to the christ.

they pride themselves on being part of a covenant that will destroy everyone else at armageddon and only they will "live forever" in paradise!.

SirNose586

10,857 was the partaker number last year.

My guess for this year is 11,600 partakers.

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FOOD at the proper time and NEW LIGHT from the Golden Age/Awake!

by Terry in

we do well to bear in mind that among the drugs, serums, vaccines, surgical operations, etc., of the medical profession, there is nothing of value save an occasional surgical proceedure.

their so-called "science" grew out of egyptian black magic and has not lost its demonological character.... we shall be in a sad plight when we place the welfare of the race in their hands.

[1] 1. the golden age, aug. 5, 1931, p. 727.. the journal of the a. m. a. is the vilest sheet that passes the united states mail.... nothing new and useful in theraputics escapes its unqualified condemnation.

SirNose586

I wonder if someone could remind me of the name of the guy in Rutherford's organisation who was responsible for pushing these views.

Clayton J. Woodworth. May the deadly policies resulting from his quack medical theories be the ruin of the organization he served.