Posts by SirNose586

i am not talking about something that's someone's property, like a library book, just literature left on benches and such.. today i saw a tract saying, "why am i here?

" i snagged it and took a look.

SirNose586

Why not take a big Red Color marker and write (WARNING IT'S A CULT) let people see that. Just a idea. Totally ADD

I got that suggestion too, only with a pen. I don't have pens on my person unless I'm at work! Just better to rip it up and throw it away.

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Job interview tips

by d in

jw
friends

i have a job interview tommrow.

i have looked on career builder and talked to my college career counselor.i some extra last minute pointers i feel a little nervous for my interview..

SirNose586

BY the way I might be working with two Jehovah Witnesses. What should I do?

Simple. Don't take crap from them. If you let them intimidate you, they've won.

And btw, welcome to the board, jasonm!

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Chick Publications

by Lunatic Faith in

jw
friends

has anyone seen this website?

you probably have, i am just really slow.

but i was researching a paper for anthropology on anti-catholic sentiments and came across the site.

SirNose586

Chick tracts are always good for a laugh.

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What percentage of young ones are leaving the JW's???

by karter in

in my area atleast 50% if not more..

SirNose586

Hang on before we beat up on amadisimon--maybe English isn't this poster's first language.

Well, let's see if I can remember some local stats of who's still in or not...

Immediate family: 0 for 2 still in.

There is a larger family who I've known for quite some time, with two boys and three girls. I was friends with the oldest boy until late last year, and I had a crush on his younger sister (the youngest of the three) for a time. Those two are definitely not in. The youngest boy is probably not in. The eldest daughter I have not seen in many years, and I don't think she's in. At worst it's 0 for 5, at best maybe 1 for 5 still in.

Then I can think of two families with one boy and one girl each who have all the kids still in.

Then another family with two boys and a girl, at best the youngest son is still in. Maybe he's left too, I don't know.

It's pretty hazy since I haven't been in contact with most of these people in a long while. The only conclusion I can draw from this quick exercise is that you're somewhat more likely to be out of the org than in, if you were born in.

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I'm a JW...HERE ME WHINE!!!

by scooterspank in

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friends

i don't even know where to start.

every jw i still have contact with is poor, their health is bad, they're stressed out, they're unhappy people.

they put on a good front but you can see the strained smiles, those distant looks into nowhere (or where their life could have gone).

SirNose586

Many of these poor people have found a way to deal with their problems with the JWs. It's not your fault your finances are low, and your health sucks--Satan is behind it, he's persecuting you for your faith in Jehoober. There seemed to be an alarming lack of personal responsibility for one's own circumstances. I always felt weird for looking for rational reasons to why my life wasn't where I wanted it to be, instead of jumping to Satan like other r&f members.

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Seven Reasons Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Leaving Their Religion.

by Hairyhegoat in

these are good comments to consider enjoy!.

jehovah's witnesses who leave their religion, do so for many different reasons.

here are seven.. watchtower prophecies and dates for armageddon have failed repeatedly.

SirNose586

The problems with the doctrine opened my eyes, but ultimately, it came down to a return on investment (ROI). I'd given time, energy, and made sacrifices for the org, like everyone else, but I didn't get the return I'd wanted.

When the org said, "Reach out for privileges. Do more for the org," I did. I became an MS, and the congregation respected me a bit more for a year. But my peers saw me as someone they had to be careful around; I could never quite click with the cliques, because they saw me as a potential rat. When I finally was able to step down, that nice feeling of respect from the congregation evaporated. Bad investment.

When the org said, "Young people, stay out of trouble," I did. I still got burned for playing video games. Bad investment.

When the org said, "Don't have premarital sex, and only date to marry," I followed the former statement, and couldn't even get the latter one going. Yet, I still remember being asked if masturbation was a problem before I was appointed as an MS, to which I said no. It wasn't a problem. You do it when needed, then you move on. But how else are you going to keep your sanity when you follow the first directive? It was a sorry position to be in. And it stung even further because my friends didn't give a crap about following the directions, and every so often they'd remind me of how much more adult they were because of their experience. Bad investment. Still stings in some regards.

When the org said, "Don't go to traditional college, just stick with community college or vocational schools," I believed them. I wasted many years trying to please the local P.O. by sticking with auto classes. Ultimately it's not what I wanted. Had I done it the right way, by now I could have had an undergrad in something. I'm fixing it now. But the investment was still very bad.

When the org said, "Don't have non-JW friends," here is where I didn't follow their advice to the letter. My old JW acquaintances have nothing to do with me these days. After shunning them for a bit, I got back in touch with my HS buddies. It's touched off into other friendships and opportunities to meet people that I can still use. Good investment!

If you're not getting what you invested out of the org, pull your resources and go. That's the smartest course of action.

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1975???

by 21stcenturywoman in

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i have a few questions about 1975. i was born after 1975, so i don't know too much about the armageddon prediction.

SirNose586

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmADNaZi4A

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"Local Needs" Talks: The people who should really hear them are never there.

by Open mind in

my whole life as a jw i've heard this refrain.

"too bad so-and-so wasn't here for that local needs talk.".

as an elder i would have a hard time putting my heart into writing up a local needs talk that was targeting one or two congregation members, knowing full well they probably wouldn't be there to hear it.. .

SirNose586

"Halo-gate"? Now that sounds like fun!

Lol, well, it was fun to play. Looking back on it now I really could have spent my time not locked in a musty room with a bunch of dudes, but whatever. Basically what happened is this...I started playing Halo: CE way back in 2003 with my friends in the hall. I got decent at it quickly and it felt good to finally be part of the cool kids crowd. We'd play after bookstudy, or on weekends, or whenever. We'd find other JWs and pwn them into the ground with our l337 skills. This went on without incident for a year.

Then we let an outsider in the group.

He got hooked on the game, and promptly went and bought an Xbox to play. Boy did this kid play...he was up for long periods of time playing, so much so that his stepdad was both pissed at him and me. Especially me, because I was seen as his closest friend in the clique, and therefore the scapegoat.

Word got around about our playing. We stopped our after-bookstudy sessions, and cut down in other areas. Then the shite hit the fan. I was given a talk with the theme, "Why Violent Videogames Are Not for Christians." I really wanted to sink into a crevice and die at that point, because I knew the jig was up. Regardless, I soldiered on and wrote a damn good talk. I took on easy targets, like Grand Theft Auto (LOVE that game!!!) and some classics, like Mortal Kombat. Amazingly I didn't make any statements that I didn't disagree with.

Right after I got down from the stage, my face felt like it was on fire. And then it got worse. To paraphrase:

"What Br. [Nose] said was all very timely and useful, and something else needs to be mentioned. Halo is another game that has become very popular, and features graphic violence," said Br. P.O.

I wanted to diiiiiiiiieeeeeeee....oh, I couldn't believe he actually said that! But he did. The sneaky bastard. Suddenly the "rule" that you couldn't name anything specific unless the org had already done so was out the window.

And the kicker was, the guy who started it all wasn't even there.

Being a j-dub sucks.