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  Was it REALLY a Bible Study?

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  i've just been reading an email that an ex jw sent to dedpoet recently, and he raised an interesting point, so i though i'd post it (dp emailed him back, and he gave permission).

  hi trevor.

  i came across your website recently, and as an ex witness living in north derbyshire, i thought i'd share a few thoughts i had recently with you.. like yourself, i joined the jehovahs witnesses in the early 90's, being baptised in 1992 at the district convention (the same one as dp).

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  Wondering why we had to do the hokey-pokey dance with books got me wondering what was up with the "Truth." I wondered why we had to switch from the Knowledge book to the What Does the Bible Really Teach? book, right away.
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  My father told me the only reason he got baptized was to

  by TTS in

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  make the family happy.. before that conversation ensued, i told him that certain things were not right with the org.

  for example: bethel layoffs of older folks, always asking for money like the catholic church.

  he said he did not fully agree with 1914 and going to 5 meetings and seeing the pioneers waste their life out in the territory.

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  I never really understood why we tried to "show concern for the poor" by handing them tracts but...how can we convert them if we don't even give them something to eat?
  The justification always went something like this: "There's no sense in painting a sinking ship or putting a chandelier in a building that's about to be demolished."
  So that means you can't help somebody out? If times are tough for you, you'd better hope you know somebody in a more loving congregation than most. Otherwise you're SOL.
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  Update! The pressure is rising, Elders on my trail!

  by drew sagan in

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  here is yet another update on what is going on in my world.

  the elder i talked to a while back just couldn't let it be and now want's to have another discussion.

  he now wants to meet with with another elder from the hall.

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  If the elder wants to talk to you again, why not one on one? When Paul straightened Peter out, he didn't say he had any help.
  
  In one instance I am aware of, the elders were to inform a sister of something contained in a letter from another cong. They specifically said they would not answer any questions, yet FOUR elders met with her to read the brief letter.
  --blindersoff
  Wow, 4 elders? Was she Sister Hulk or something? "If she hulks out while I'm reading the letter, you distract her while I apply the Vulcan Death Grip!!"
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  PO said automation and declining contributions reason for Bethel layoffs

  by truthseeker in

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  last week at the meeting, the po, who has very close connections to bethel, said that he never thought he would see the day that bethelites were being sent home.

  he said that the biggest two reasons he thought bethel were cutting back, was automation and a massive decline in contributions.

  looks like you're right metatron about the contribution aspect being their achilles heel.

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  Another irony: the WTS discourages higher education, yet expects substantial contributions from members who are often not qualified to earn much more than minimum wage. It's like shooting someone in the foot and then expecting them to dance.
  --parakeet
  Good observation. Maybe there'll be a "new light" on this? Something like, "Please, go to college. Earn real money. Just so long as you donate to the Society and keep your hours up!"
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  JW sexual assault in Denver

  by purplesofa in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4067129.

  article launched: 07/19/2006 01:00:00 am mdt.

  denver & the west.

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  Recapture his lost youth? Huh. Interesting tactic by the defense. Good looking out on the info.
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  Is America one big cult?

  by barry in

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  2. friends

  dont get me wrong im not a yanky basher like some we know but when visiting my dad the other day got me thinking when he played a dvd he had.. the dvd was of a concert of religious music by the assembly of god and the sdas most of the program was very good with excellent prerformers and uplifting music.

  i thought the sdas in the states looked like they were being influenced by the more charasmatic a of g people because many were raising there hands like the aof g do.. there was nothing too unusual until about two thirds through when some marines marched in with the yanky flag with a marine either side complete with rifle .

  the remainder of the concert was dedicated to nationalistic hyms of which i cant recall the titles.

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  Having not seen most of America, I can't answer your question with any degree of authority. I can tell you though, that the Christian music market is pretty healthy out in the Bible Belt. If you've never heard of the Bible Belt--and anyone feel free to correct me if I leave out some areas--it stretches from Oklahoma and Texas through the lower Midwest and the South.
  Another way to explain it is the differences between "Red States" and "Blue States." That DVD was probably filmed in a "Red State," or a [Bible Belt] state that gave its electoral votes to President Bush in 2004. This is not to say that a religious concert of that nature can't take place in a Blue State, but it probably wouldn't happen there.
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  Why baptise young ones?

  by dobbie in

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  2. bible

  just had two months worth of mags shoved through my door(thank goodness i wasn't in but out with kids having fun!

  )had a flick through them but what caught my attention was the july 1st watchtower 2nd study article "youths, make it your choice to serve jehovah".

  it seems to be basically encouraging all the young ones to get baptised, and mentions one boy who was only thirteen!i was'nt born into the jws but i know that in my early teen years i would personally never have been emotionally ready for such a major commitment.

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  Get them started young, and they'll be pro salespersons for life!
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  Story: How the "Preaching Work" Ended

  by metatron in

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  when february of 2008 came around, the watchtower society was facing two dilemmas.. first, courts in the us were creeping closer to establishing a widespread precedent that church volunteers could trigger liability suits for their.

  respective religions, just as surely as if they were employees.

  a 17 million dollar judgement against a catholic diocese in the midwest set the.

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  Good story...
  I'd say it won't happen as quickly as that, but dropping the Awake doesn't seem too farfetched, what with the recent printing reduction. I would like to see them get hit with a landmark lawsuit, though...
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  Finally downloaded the application for America's Next Top Model. :)

  by stillAwitness in

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  2. friends

  well, i been "living in sin" for about 5 days now and aside from an elder asking if i was gonna still do a talk i was scheduled for this past monday (i told him no of course.

  he knows i moved out and only asked about my literature) i finally worked the nerve to download the application for this season's america's next top model.

  i've been modeling for some time now and i figured what the hell...i have nothing to lose but $3.95 in postage.

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  That's you in the avatar!?!? Daaaaaaaaaaaamn!
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  Don't Get Caught!...

  by Justice-One in

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  i have been successful at keeping my true feelings from my wife and others for more than 15 years.

  i came to understand a long time ago that this was just the way things had to be.

  but for the most part, i live my life the way i want to live it.

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  You really got to sweat the small stuff when it comes to staying under the radar. Those little mistakes will nail you every time. I would really think about rearanging your room so the back of the monitor faces the door. And one more thing - Even when JWD is minimized, you can still see "Jehovah's Witness Dis" very clearly at the bottom of the screen. BTW, if your Dad is on the prowl make SURE you use a good program like CCleaner to sanitize your system after EVERY use. I would also recommend that you look into PGP Personal Edition. It comes with PGP disk, and can be very handy.
  --Justice-One
  I don't think I can rearrange my room so that my monitor faces away from the door. You have to peek around the corner to see it. I do usually remember to keep an unrelated tab open for quick minimization. The only reason why I got caught was because I was busy reading something else away from the comp, and it hadn't gone to screensaver yet. Otherwise I can sense people coming, no matter what I'm doing (sixth sense I guess) and hide it.
  Thankfully, my dad respects my privacy, though that one time was an exception. I wouldn't expect him to get on my computer.
  However, I will check out CCleaner and PGP Personal Edition.