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  I'm protected by law, hurray!

  by AnonyMouse in

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  my mom telling me i had no rights infuriated me.

  it made me feel like all my attempts at freedom were useless (well, they were...).

  but the un made a thingy protecting children that a freind of mine found.

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  If the memory serves, we did not ratify the Rights of the Child.

  We just like putting young people to death!

  (How's that for a conversation starter?)
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  Voting with their wallet

  by SirNose586 in

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  when i came here in may, i began to see phrases like "voting with their wallets" or "voting with their feet" in regards to declining contributions and declining attendance figures.

  i think i am seeing the former in action..... last sunday i went to the local ca.

  at the half they read the accounts report--aka, cough up that dough report--and there was a "$4,000 deficit.

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  When I came here in May, I began to see phrases like "voting with their wallets" or "voting with their feet" in regards to declining contributions and declining attendance figures. I think I am seeing the former in action....

  Last Sunday I went to the local CA. At the half they read the accounts report--aka, COUGH UP THAT DOUGH report--and there was a "$4,000 deficit." Now, I have never heard them say that there is more than enough money, or that there is not much of a deficit. There is always some sort of huge deficit. Is this the case at every CA, like there's really no deficit and they want more money? Or is my circuit stingy?

  Now comes the part you can't really fake: congregation funds on hand at the end of the month. For quite some time, ours had hovered at around 1k. After the CO's "daddy needs some new Armani suits" fund (aka "CO assistance" announcement) and the KHAA fund resolution, we are nearly broke. Congregation funds on hand at the end of the month are around $100.

  I have never heard it go this low. Wow.

  One of two things, or maybe a combo of both is going on...scraping by every month (no higher education) doesn't yield much in the way of donations, or people are really voting with their wallets. The announcer guy encouraged people to send their dollars towards "local funds" and not to the WWW.

  Did any other congregation get this strapped for funds?
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  Flip-Flop Scan - Live Forever book

  by bigmouth in

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  recently, a poster was asking about the changes between the 1982 and 1989 issues of the live forever book.

  this was regarding the resurrection of the inhabitants of sodom and gomorrah.

  are they or aren't they?

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  Poor Sodom and Gomorrites. They get a resurrection, then they don't, then they do again. Guess it depends on what kind of message they want: hard or soft.
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  Why call it "Jehovahs day" or "Jehovahs judgement?

  by Hellrider in

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  2. bible

  john 5:21 for just as the father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the son gives life to whomever he wishes.

  5:22 furthermore, the father does not judge anyone, but has assigned all judgment to the son,5:23 so that all people will honor the son just as they honor the father.

  the one who does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him.. so the son is the one who will actually do the judging, right?

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  It just hit me one day. They actually go to the point of taking honor away from Jesus so they can add another reason to the list of things that ONLY THEY ALONE teach and are doing correct. It's all about that impressive list of doctrines that 'only Jehovah's Witnesses' are teaching.
  
  Of course what it ends up being is a false gospel.

  Spot on, Drew. If they went around glorifying Jesus, that would make them like other Christians and--

  Oops. Right. Can't be like other Christians, because they are super special True Christians TM and don't have to glorify the Son at all!
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  Active JWs: lurkers and posters, is your religion ritualistic?

  by AuldSoul in

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  2. beliefs

  watchtower october 1, 1998, p. 14, par.

  2. the coldhearted attitude of the pharisees constituted a crime against humanity and a sin against god.

  (john 9:39-41) with good reason, jesus warned his disciples, "watch out for the leaven" of this elitist group and other religionists, such as the sadducees.

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  If the Sunday speaker were to show up late, the whole congregation would be abuzz about how jarring it was to do the Borgtower study first, then hear a talk.
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  Witnesses Worse Than The World?

  by metatron in

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  while it is true that witnesses aggressively seek converts to a greater degree than other religions, in regard.

  to retaining their own children, they are as bad - or worse -- than the "world".

  other religions worry about.

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  I noticed something like that at the CA. It seemed that the audience was collectively older (higher mean age), which could just be the shuffling in and out of a few older congregations in the circuit.

  Not having kids who stayed in dubdom is fairly common. I'm as likely, or possibly more likely, to encounter a middle-aged or older couple whose kids decided to split, as I am a couple whose kids stayed in. Keeping the young people in is tough...we had a few demotings not that long ago (stripped of unbaptized pub. status). They just don't care. The generation gap is noticeable.

  Interesting that the Amish have a "time out" where young people can decide whether to stick with the lifestyle or bolt. Last CA, the Borg's representative thundered about how pushing your kids was like "pushing them into a boat after floundering about: even if they fall out, you push them back in again."
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  Words and expressions a JW can't say

  by JH in

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  name few words or expressions a normal person can say, but not a jw.. when someone sneezes, you can't say bless ya !.

  if you want to surprise a jw, you can't say boo !!!

  http://www.prankcallsunlimited.com/pcu/booecho.mp3.

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  It's been years, but some idiot giving a talk said something about using that term as not "christian". I can't remember the details but I do remember that term being forbidden.

  Dismembered

  The last CO had issues with that phrase. Apparently we shouldn't be "hanging in there," we should be "all in there!" or something to that effect. So apparently if you're hanging in there, you're not doing enough to secure yourself. If you're happy and content, you must be doing wrong because you're not being persecuted enough....man, no wonder dubs become schizos!
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  Lightening exits woman's bottom

  by misspeaches in

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  read the article here... http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20548077-13762,00.html.

  lightning exits woman's bottom.

  a woman has suffered severe burning to her anus after being struck by lightning which hit her in the mouth and passed right through her body.. natasha timarovic, 27, was cleaning her teeth at home when lightning struck the building.

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  At last! A wife for William Wallace!
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  Any "tricks" you'd like to play on a JW or at the KH?

  by JH in

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  i'd like to put a crisis of conscience book in their library.

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  if you do get the recordings, you'd better post the finds

  That would be sick if I could get a JC and df'ing. I probably shouldn't hope for too much.

  I think the main reason why I'm committed to pulling this trick off is because the elder's room has the air conditioner in the back, covered by shutters. If I could affix the recorder high on the inside face of the wall, and snake a mic down the side, that would be perfect. No one looks at the air conditioner that often, and when they do, it's unlikely that they would look where I would want to place it.
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  Any "tricks" you'd like to play on a JW or at the KH?

  by JH in

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  i'd like to put a crisis of conscience book in their library.

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  I believe that voice activated recorders are sold at places like Staples.

  --VM44

  I just looked. Staples was the last place I would think to carry those things, but I was wrong. All it needs to have is voice activation or remote activation, absolutely silent operation, a microphone jack, USB port, and of course, exceptional recording quality. Price is no matter. For some reason, I just have the strongest urge to sneak in there, camouflage a recording device, and harvest the conversations. Audio editing software would be gravy, but that's not an issue... The elders spy on people all the time. I think it's high time to turn the tables. I've found a couple of other recorders that might fit the bill. I don't know the company involved, so these might just be duds. Here's #1, here's #2.