Posts by VanillaMocha73

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Re-introducing myself to JWD

by Reverend Warhawk in

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i'm gonna reintroduce myself (got a new nickname, the other one would've blown away my identity in, say, three seconds)...so some of this might read familiar to some people here:.

after a very, very slow process, thinking over things that were stored in a little box in a corner of my mind, i've finally confirmed all the doubts i've had about the society and about jehovah's witnesses.

i'm a 36 year-old man, work as a software developer, married, with two kids, ages 10 and 3. i was "born" in the organization.

VanillaMocha73

"Since I learned how to read and write by myself at the age of 3, I was placed in school two years ahead--so I was only 5 years old in 2nd grade. That means I graduated from high school at 15...And I could tell you that maybe that's when things started going downhill, in "spiritual" terms, even though I didn't know it at the time. But my very analytical mind seemed to be working and storing everything for future reference..."

LOL - so are you my long-lost twin? I graduated at 12, reading and writing at 3 as well. However, I did go down the "don't go to evil college, become a full-time pioneer route"

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Judge: 14-year-old Jehovah's Witness can refuse blood transfusion

by Gilberto in

a 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.

this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.

judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.

VanillaMocha73

Murderers....

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And By Their Fruits You Will Know Them

by VanillaMocha73 in

so.... i took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away.

no smile, nothing....

this is the woman whom i have taken to the hospital, whom i have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so i could help her, whom has known me since i was tiny..... can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years?

VanillaMocha73

I have decided the only way shunning makes any sense is this:

I know of an pioneer who left her husband and took up with an elder in her KH. We knew they were an item for years before, as they spent entirely too much time together. Anyway, they somehow pulled it all off without getting disfellowshipped. Now, that is a couple that I would probably naturally shun.... I do not approve of their choices, and would likely not invite them over for dinner and such. I would still be civil and speak to them in the store, but I just would not choose to spend time with them any longer. That shunning makes some sense - I have firsthand knowledge of the situation and can consciously choose not to spend time with them. In the JW cases, a blanket announcement is made at the KH. Nobody knows exactly what the person did (sometimes you can hazard a pretty decent guess...) The "offending" party does not have a chance to defend themselves and there is nothing left up to conscience. In fact, the slander / gossip that goes along with the DF'ing is horrid. Here, I moved in with my mother to leave an abusive and dangerous situation, and I constantly hear around the KH circles that I moved in with some young guy..... I assure you ... my mother is neither young nor a male..... But I don't even have a chance to stand up for myself.

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And By Their Fruits You Will Know Them

by VanillaMocha73 in

so.... i took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away.

no smile, nothing....

this is the woman whom i have taken to the hospital, whom i have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so i could help her, whom has known me since i was tiny..... can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years?

VanillaMocha73

So.... I took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away. No smile, nothing.... This is the woman whom I have taken to the hospital, whom I have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so I could help her, whom has known me since I was tiny..... Can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years? Just because three men she does not even know in some back room made the determination for her that she should no longer acknowledge me... By their fruits you shall know them.... And boy, they show through don't they?

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Hi there!

by breakingfree in

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friends

i have been coming to this site to read news and your stories for about a year now, but have never posted due to my mortal fear of somehow being found out... i have family in as most of you do, who are all very sincerely convinced that they are on the path of light.. i have never been happy with the beliefs, mainly the doublespeak on the status of women, the hypocrisy, the dramatisation of the smallest of matters, and the general guilt trip that was my life until i stumbled across some hard evidence that my suspicions about 'gods channel' were well founded.

unfortunately i am now addicted to turning over every piece of information i can find, there seems to be no end to the amount of $#*& below the surface.

i will probably remain in this state for awhile, hungrily devouring all the information that makes me feel validated for my stand against much of the mindless rubbish that has gone around me during my life as a jw.

VanillaMocha73

Stay home and come down with something terribly contagious... cough cough hack hack... answer the door with your kleenex and red eyes - the glazed over look... tell them you have allergies to something at the KH. (Deoderant, perfume...) Ask CO if he is wearing deoderant? That oughta do it. Personally, some of the COs are decent and some just have no clue. The one that kicked my friend out of her home after her husband (his father) died - he gave her 1 week to leave, no home to go to, no income - he was not willing to pay a month rent for her after he inherited everything from dad, now that CO takes the cake.

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Tell Me About Your Jehovah's Witness Mother...If You had One!

by new boy in

so since no one picked up the ball, after my thread on "your jw father".....here we go.... my mother (bless her heart) was born in kansas in 1926....her mother died in 1934, when my mother was 8 years old.

she died trying to give yourself an abortion with a coat hanger.

it was the "great depression".....she was 34 years old 4 kids and a 5th on the way...my grandfather would blow through town just long enough to "knock her up" and leave....no money....no hope.

VanillaMocha73

Mom.... born to a father who felt that women were useless and a mother who was schizophrenic. Left with the mom, who tried to kill her by smothering and basically was pretty messed up. Mom was tossed around to orphanage, relatives, everything, until her dad got remarried and took her home. Her new stepmom did not know what to do with my mum (who I guess was diagnosed somewhat autistic at the time) and was pretty hard on her. She grew up a Methodist / Presbyterian - basically a good kid, Sunday school teacher, etc. Her dad refused to pay for her schooling while he sent his son (born to the new stepmom) to MIT. She married some guy, divorced him, married my dad. The JWs found her at the door and she started to preach at them and it backfired. She became one and I was raised as such. However, she has always had problems with their theology at times and now tells me that she will be out before long. She introduced me to Franz' COC and is trying to reconcile her beliefs as a JW and having a hard time of it. I think she is most afraid that she will lose her friends of 30+ years when she leaves. She will lose her home (she rents from a sister), lose her friends, her support, everything. I think it is HORRIBLE that a religion would do that to an old lady, just because she is honest and candid about the truth.

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Another Fine JW

by VanillaMocha73 in

http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=33b83de3-562c-4936-bfb0-ed5174eb4acd

VanillaMocha73

Sorry, guess this one was already posted...

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Another Fine JW

by VanillaMocha73 in

http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=33b83de3-562c-4936-bfb0-ed5174eb4acd

VanillaMocha73

http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=33b83de3-562c-4936-bfb0-ed5174eb4acd

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An Org with trial and errors

by spiritboi in

our jw friend,aleman, replied my post at "can you say satan" with a pm.. "the jw of today is not like the one in 1975 or 1915 or 1907. this is because of trial and error that they .

are now a more prepared christian.

they are solders too, of the spiritual kind where they have much advanced .

VanillaMocha73

Well, here is your problem: "JW make you work and study and learn for your salvation " - Think about that one for awhile, Aleman. Work for your salvation? I thought salvation was an undeserved kindness? Is not it Satan that wants to make you think you can earn your salvation?

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What has everyone done with your literature, now that you've left?

by momzcrazy in

i have boxes of literature upstairs.

i was waiting for bookshelves to get built in our new house, but now i don't want to put them all up.

i have sentimental things, like ones that were my dad's.

VanillaMocha73

I have some books from the early years that look like they are supposed to pick up a decent price on eBay (Comfort for the Jews ans such). I keep tossing between a) am I selling poison to some poor innocent?, b) do I want to keep them for ammunition on JW boards? or c) do I want the money?