I think if you actually sign up as member on the site, the restricted posts go away. Some sort of spam guard thing..... I think my screen name is fairly common. I came by it when i was doing an intervention for a friend's daughter who was getting into trouble and/or expressing some suicidal thoughts on the Net. Thankfully, she got past all that and is a fine young lady today!!!! I do not subscribe to or recognize the JW disfellowshipping practice. It is unloving and unscriptural. I can understand the shunning that I described in my post - when you have firsthand knowledge of events and people and God has led you to the personal decision that you are not going to invite the drug dealer family over for dinner. The Corinthian congregation (where the JWs try to find support for their DF'ing tradition) had a man in it whom everyone personally KNEW was committing incest. They continued to wink at this guy and have him over for dinner (to put a modern-day twist on it). Paul said "Hey - what this guy did is not right. Let the rebuke of the majority be sufficient for him." So people realized that they should be not be comfortable around sin. There is nowhere that says his grandmother was to treat him as dead. Now, she may have gone up to him and told him personally that she was not comfortable with him around because of his choices. But that is different. My adopted grandma does not know a thing about my circumstances - only the lies she was told AFTER my disfellowshipping. And they are the most ridiculous lies ever!!!! But nobody is able to ask me a thing - the truth is banned!!!! The lies are allowed. By their fruits..... There is further nothing in this scripture that says three men should make a secret decision and then make a mysterious announcement that so-and-so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Nobody knows what happened - the elders have tried to take the place of Christian conscience. That is putting themselves in a dangerous spot. In fact, when Jesus said to treat the person like a tax collector, think of how Jesus treated tax collectors. He didn't shun them - he loved them!!!!
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And By Their Fruits You Will Know Them
by VanillaMocha73 inso.... i took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away.
no smile, nothing....
this is the woman whom i have taken to the hospital, whom i have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so i could help her, whom has known me since i was tiny..... can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years?
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Judge: 14-year-old Jehovah's Witness can refuse blood transfusion
by Gilberto ina 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.
this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.
judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.
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The other sorrow is that this poor child felt cast out by his parents, because of their drug problem. He finally gets accepted by his aunt (with the conditional JW acceptance of course). Then he is faced with this blood decision. What chance did he have? Stand up and say "I want to save my life?" Then the aunt and the JWs and (he felt) his God would cast him out again. The news story says "he believes with the transfusion he would be unclean and unworthy."
These people have much to answer for, and answer they will.....
I need help - I have been awarded full medical decision making with my son and my ex has run right over me with sneaking a "no blood" card into my son's wallet with HIS contact information. So, I know if there is ever a problem, there will be a fight. And I'm sure my son has been indoctrinated in all the "proper" ways. sigh....
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Re-introducing myself to JWD
by Reverend Warhawk ini'm gonna reintroduce myself (got a new nickname, the other one would've blown away my identity in, say, three seconds)...so some of this might read familiar to some people here:.
after a very, very slow process, thinking over things that were stored in a little box in a corner of my mind, i've finally confirmed all the doubts i've had about the society and about jehovah's witnesses.
i'm a 36 year-old man, work as a software developer, married, with two kids, ages 10 and 3. i was "born" in the organization.
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"Since I learned how to read and write by myself at the age of 3, I was placed in school two years ahead--so I was only 5 years old in 2nd grade. That means I graduated from high school at 15...And I could tell you that maybe that's when things started going downhill, in "spiritual" terms, even though I didn't know it at the time. But my very analytical mind seemed to be working and storing everything for future reference..."
LOL - so are you my long-lost twin? I graduated at 12, reading and writing at 3 as well. However, I did go down the "don't go to evil college, become a full-time pioneer route"
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Judge: 14-year-old Jehovah's Witness can refuse blood transfusion
by Gilberto ina 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.
this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.
judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.
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Murderers....
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And By Their Fruits You Will Know Them
by VanillaMocha73 inso.... i took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away.
no smile, nothing....
this is the woman whom i have taken to the hospital, whom i have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so i could help her, whom has known me since i was tiny..... can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years?
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I have decided the only way shunning makes any sense is this:
I know of an pioneer who left her husband and took up with an elder in her KH. We knew they were an item for years before, as they spent entirely too much time together. Anyway, they somehow pulled it all off without getting disfellowshipped. Now, that is a couple that I would probably naturally shun.... I do not approve of their choices, and would likely not invite them over for dinner and such. I would still be civil and speak to them in the store, but I just would not choose to spend time with them any longer. That shunning makes some sense - I have firsthand knowledge of the situation and can consciously choose not to spend time with them. In the JW cases, a blanket announcement is made at the KH. Nobody knows exactly what the person did (sometimes you can hazard a pretty decent guess...) The "offending" party does not have a chance to defend themselves and there is nothing left up to conscience. In fact, the slander / gossip that goes along with the DF'ing is horrid. Here, I moved in with my mother to leave an abusive and dangerous situation, and I constantly hear around the KH circles that I moved in with some young guy..... I assure you ... my mother is neither young nor a male..... But I don't even have a chance to stand up for myself.
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And By Their Fruits You Will Know Them
by VanillaMocha73 inso.... i took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away.
no smile, nothing....
this is the woman whom i have taken to the hospital, whom i have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so i could help her, whom has known me since i was tiny..... can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years?
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So.... I took my mom to the doctor today, and my grandma (adopted) walked in, looked right at me and just looked away. No smile, nothing.... This is the woman whom I have taken to the hospital, whom I have stayed with time after time when she had surgery so I could help her, whom has known me since I was tiny..... Can you imagine not even smiling or acknowledging someone you have known since infancy, who has shown so much love and loyalty for you over the years? Just because three men she does not even know in some back room made the determination for her that she should no longer acknowledge me... By their fruits you shall know them.... And boy, they show through don't they?
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Hi there!
by breakingfree ini have been coming to this site to read news and your stories for about a year now, but have never posted due to my mortal fear of somehow being found out... i have family in as most of you do, who are all very sincerely convinced that they are on the path of light.. i have never been happy with the beliefs, mainly the doublespeak on the status of women, the hypocrisy, the dramatisation of the smallest of matters, and the general guilt trip that was my life until i stumbled across some hard evidence that my suspicions about 'gods channel' were well founded.
unfortunately i am now addicted to turning over every piece of information i can find, there seems to be no end to the amount of $#*& below the surface.
i will probably remain in this state for awhile, hungrily devouring all the information that makes me feel validated for my stand against much of the mindless rubbish that has gone around me during my life as a jw.
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Stay home and come down with something terribly contagious... cough cough hack hack... answer the door with your kleenex and red eyes - the glazed over look... tell them you have allergies to something at the KH. (Deoderant, perfume...) Ask CO if he is wearing deoderant? That oughta do it. Personally, some of the COs are decent and some just have no clue. The one that kicked my friend out of her home after her husband (his father) died - he gave her 1 week to leave, no home to go to, no income - he was not willing to pay a month rent for her after he inherited everything from dad, now that CO takes the cake.
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Tell Me About Your Jehovah's Witness Mother...If You had One!
by new boy inso since no one picked up the ball, after my thread on "your jw father".....here we go.... my mother (bless her heart) was born in kansas in 1926....her mother died in 1934, when my mother was 8 years old.
she died trying to give yourself an abortion with a coat hanger.
it was the "great depression".....she was 34 years old 4 kids and a 5th on the way...my grandfather would blow through town just long enough to "knock her up" and leave....no money....no hope.
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Mom.... born to a father who felt that women were useless and a mother who was schizophrenic. Left with the mom, who tried to kill her by smothering and basically was pretty messed up. Mom was tossed around to orphanage, relatives, everything, until her dad got remarried and took her home. Her new stepmom did not know what to do with my mum (who I guess was diagnosed somewhat autistic at the time) and was pretty hard on her. She grew up a Methodist / Presbyterian - basically a good kid, Sunday school teacher, etc. Her dad refused to pay for her schooling while he sent his son (born to the new stepmom) to MIT. She married some guy, divorced him, married my dad. The JWs found her at the door and she started to preach at them and it backfired. She became one and I was raised as such. However, she has always had problems with their theology at times and now tells me that she will be out before long. She introduced me to Franz' COC and is trying to reconcile her beliefs as a JW and having a hard time of it. I think she is most afraid that she will lose her friends of 30+ years when she leaves. She will lose her home (she rents from a sister), lose her friends, her support, everything. I think it is HORRIBLE that a religion would do that to an old lady, just because she is honest and candid about the truth.
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Another Fine JW
by VanillaMocha73 inhttp://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=33b83de3-562c-4936-bfb0-ed5174eb4acd
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Sorry, guess this one was already posted...
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Another Fine JW
by VanillaMocha73 inhttp://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=33b83de3-562c-4936-bfb0-ed5174eb4acd
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