for those of you that know, is there any difference between the two?I haven't been here for a few months and wondered if the public wt is tolerant and friendly than the witnesses one,and if the witnesses one was more hardline, covering the more controversial things?Would just be really interested to find out if the public one has articles more designed to catch householders out, without putting anything in them that could put them off ie discipline (shunning) or blood etc. Thanks!
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8Can i just ask about the public and non public watchtowers..
by dobbie infor those of you that know, is there any difference between the two?i haven't been here for a few months and wondered if the public wt is tolerant and friendly than the witnesses one,and if the witnesses one was more hardline, covering the more controversial things?would just be really interested to find out if the public one has articles more designed to catch householders out, without putting anything in them that could put them off ie discipline (shunning) or blood etc.
thanks!
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dobbie
I was told i could count studies with my child about three yrs ago!(though i never did although they kept asking me if i had, cos to me that didn't count as ministry esp as he was only 3!)
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A practical lesson on shunning.
by strawberry cake intoday i decided to visit a friend of mine who i met when she was my study.
(she has no intentions of making a commitment, but still continues studying with old pioneer 'friends' of mine.
well it just so happens that these 2 sisters were there.
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What i've found is that if you get one of them on their own sometimes if you say hello or something you sometimes get an answer! Proof to me that they don't really want to shun.Some i smile at or make the occasional comment, others are dollops anyway so i have nothing to do with them. Good for you for being so gutsy i, know how hard it is at first, being blanked by people you thought were true friends x
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where can i find address of jws London headquarters please?
by dobbie inits ridgeway nw7 1rn,methinks
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dobbie
Brilliant! Thanks ever so much, can get on with my lettersto them now lol!
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I will be insane soon. Conditional love. Thought terminating cliches.
by easyreader1970 inwhen i first started to doubt the watchtower, i thought they were just a bit misguided.
this was some years ago.
but i felt like maybe they had most of it right and that things would sort themselves out in the end.
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Sorry you are going through this. We know all about the conditional love , hubbys family have already told him that they will never put him or any other family member first, the religio/God ismore important. This is now why i call them a mind controlling cult.
Have you actually tried talking with your wife? I got to the point where although i wasn't sure what my husband would do, i had to leave the religion even if it did mean us splitting up. Thankfully he believes as i do that family comes first before anything on earth but i got to the state where i was ready for us to part if it meant breaking away from the jws. It was actually making me feel constantly sick the last few months, in the end i think the stress of it all just gets to you. Hugs xx
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Something for the agnostics and atheists - Divine Spark still there
by Octarine Prince inclick for something heartwarming
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dobbie
With someone who had a 27wker its very sad she died, thoughtbh she may have had permanent damage not having much oxygen. Poor little mite.
But to me (and don't eat me its only my opinion!) this proves that there isn't any God or he wouldn't have let her be born too soon, and die anyway.
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allergic to onions
by buffalosrfree inmy sister is allergic to onions (not sure about scallions) and i wanted to fix her some of the food she never gets to eat when visiting.
so i am looking for a replacement that will still give the good some good taste just not with the onions.
anyone out there have any suggestions?
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my step dad is allergic to onions as well, also anything related and can't even have things with onion powder in such as alotof sausages. He just has lots of pepper in his food. How about using something like herbs or paprika, not oniony but adds flavour?
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ok does this letter to congregation sound ok?
by dobbie infollowing on again from my posts re elder not leaving wheni asked etc i am sending a letter to the elders about it and saying not tocall.
could you cast your peepers over it please and let me know what you think?of course they may d'f hubby if i get him to sign it also but its what hes waiting for so than won't matter!.
this week (elders name) called on our house whilst 'working' our street, despite our having a sign stating 'no religious callers' that he has seen before.. i asked him politely to put his bible away in view of this, he rufused as i am "not the head of the house".
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thanks for all your suggestions, have posted my reply but they keep jumping up the page so it looks like i posted them earlier?!Don't know how i am managing to do that lol!Its under Hortensias last post for somereason not LDHs' lets see where this one turns up!
edited to add - ok ignore all this is was okay once i went back out into the main forum - my only excuse is about 4 hours sleep last night lol!
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ok does this letter to congregation sound ok?
by dobbie infollowing on again from my posts re elder not leaving wheni asked etc i am sending a letter to the elders about it and saying not tocall.
could you cast your peepers over it please and let me know what you think?of course they may d'f hubby if i get him to sign it also but its what hes waiting for so than won't matter!.
this week (elders name) called on our house whilst 'working' our street, despite our having a sign stating 'no religious callers' that he has seen before.. i asked him politely to put his bible away in view of this, he rufused as i am "not the head of the house".
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wow thats weird i replied to your post Hortensia but its jumped above your post although i posted it after yours?!
Thanks for your suggestions,yeah thanks W-A-C but i think if i did the mace threatening thing it'd be me the police would be escorting away lol! I am sure over here they cannot record DNCs anymore because of data protection act but i will put it in my letter and send a copy to main headquarters here too. Will do it on computer next time so i don't have to keep writing these letters out and then changing them lol!
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Cult: Child died of Starvation--refused to say "Amen"
by cameo-d inbaltimore (ap) _ after denying javon thompson food and water for two days because he wouldn't say "amen" after meals, the 1-year-old's caretakers waited for a divine sign that their message had been heard: a resurrection.. .
for more than a week, police say in charging documents describing the scene, the child's lifeless body lay in the back room of an apartment.
queen antoinette, the 40-year-old leader of a group that called itself 1 mind ministries, brought in her followers and told them to pray.
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dobbie
if he was only 15 months old how could he have managed to say amen at every meal anyway for petes sake! Poor little man, he must have really suffered.