Posts by dmouse

a year to the day that i found and joined this site, after some years out of the org, it never crossed my mind that a place like this would even exist, and i'm not afraid to admit that it took three weeks to stop myself from crying every time i came here, for over 10 years i thought i was on my own with my borg past, the shunning etc etc.

this place has allowed me to deal with my past and will with my future too........i could write many words of course......but sometimes words are not needed.........accolades abound for you all here..........thank you.. jgull .

the record shows.

dmouse

'appy birfday!

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Download "Beware of the Voice of Strangers" assembly talk

by Nosferatu in

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hey all, i finally put up "beware of the voice of strangers" for downloading.

i had quite a bit of trouble putting it on the net (it's over 7 megs).

if not, i'll try and fix it on the weekend.. this is the district convention part on apostates.

dmouse

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oh dear!

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What's The Most Ridiculous Thing Taught or Believed By Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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what do you think??

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dmouse

Hey, thanks for that blondie!

Here's the prayer said before every meeting of the GB.

http://www.dwwa.net/dr4/Genesis/rant.wav

Edited to add, good news for Satellite UK viewers - UKGOLD are running a weekend of Dr Who to celebrate 40 years of the show:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2003/07/16/5767.shtml

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What's The Most Ridiculous Thing Taught or Believed By Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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what do you think??

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dmouse

Loyalty should move you to be ready to obey

Chilling! Obedience without question.

In my best Dalek voice:

"You will obey! You will obey! Or you will be exterminated! Extermiiiinnaaaaated!"

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Branch letters in the older KMs

by dmouse in

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i was browsing some older kms on the latest wt cd and noticed that each month there used to be a branch letter included.

this appeared to be a friendly, informal letter advising brothers of what was happening that month - all the interesting news from bethel etc.. then, seemingly without any warning, the bethel letters disappeared from the kms in december 1978. i wonder why?.

the letters seemed a very warm way for the brothers in bethel to communicate with the brothers 'out there' , it made them seem much more human and loving.

dmouse

That's very interesting if true LoyalLeon, but I haven't even got Augusts KM yet! Any chance of a scan?

Wow! Makes me wonder if the bros at bethal read our comments here and agreed that dropping the branch letters was a bad idea.

It seems strange that they're back after a 20 year break the very month after the issue was raised on an apostate site.

Nah, must be just coincidence!

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Female sexuality and the WBTS

by dmouse in

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this is my last post for a couple of weeks as i'm going on holiday (st ives).

my apologies to those waiting for august's km, it's going to be a bit late!.

anyhow... i was enjoying amazing's recent thread where he picks apart the society's view on masturbation and, like him, realized that female sexuality is seldom discussed.

dmouse

This is my last post for a couple of weeks as I'm going on Holiday (St Ives). My apologies to those waiting for August's KM, it's going to be a bit late!

Anyhow... I was enjoying Amazing's recent thread where he picks apart the Society's view on masturbation and, like him, realized that female sexuality is seldom discussed. Of course the reasons for this are many and various, not least of which is the misogynistic nature of the JW hierarchy. I will leave it to others to suggest other reasons why this may be so.

On the subject of female sexuality I believe the following question from readers is a 'tour de force' of modern thinking on human and especially female sexuality. (Americans please note I am being ironic here)

This is genuine. Check it out for yourself on the CD. Your comments will be welcome.

QFR - Watchtower 1961 December 15th

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How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?

When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind. Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos. If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the time will come when there will be great danger in such actions. Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.

Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow’s horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.

If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.

As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the "boy friend" that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.

Some persons foolishly think that they know when it is "safe" to have sex contact with those of the opposite sex and thus avoid becoming pregnant, but this is a serious mistake on their part. Even learned biologists do not know exactly when there is no danger of conception for a woman. This is due to certain irregularities in the case of various females.

When the ovum, that is, the egg cell from which the baby starts, is at large or is on its way from the woman’s ovary through her Fallopian tube to the uterus, there it remains for an uncertain length of time, which varies greatly with different females. Then is the time when conception can take place if the ovum is met by a male life sperm. During that same time the female is sexually aroused and is ready for the sex act that at this time will cause a baby to result. This bearing of children is the sole privilege of the female. In fact, this is one main reason for creating the female of the human species.

There are cases where a girl became pregnant as a result of one sex interview with a boy. What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions! When persons start in this dangerous and sinful course, they find it hard to overcome future temptations. When a young, unmarried girl falls to the temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being disfellowshiped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated member. It is high time for girls to understand the make-up of their bodies and its functions, especially with regard to sex. Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her, she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals at all times. She will avoid the violating of her virginity and the shame and conscience-stricken state due to this; and wisely she will direct her young life so as to end up in the position of a clean, happy wife and mother of legitimate children, journeying to the new world of righteousness, where there will be no sex problems amid a sex-crazy population.

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Straining the gnat, gulping the camel.

by Rush in

i remember the stink caused in the congregation when the sweets 'skittles' were released in the uk.

they were advertised as containing 100% natural flavourings and colourings.. the problem was, the dye they used in the red skittles was cochineal.

cochineal is made by pulping the dried bodies of a mexican beetle and produces a vivid red colour that has been highly sought after in the past.. i'm not sure where the issue arose, but some bright spark decided it was against the blood policy to eat this as the beetles hadn't been bled before they were dried and crushed.. the congregation was in an uproar.

dmouse

Oh yeah! I remember the furore about Oxo cubes! (beef stock, said to have blood added). Does anyone remember the suspicion about cadbury chocolate?

Do they have 'black pudding' in the US? A British delicacy containing much blood, even now I've never tried it

'even the white bits were black!'

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Geneva convention anyone? Surprises?

by UpAndAtom in

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i heard that a few surprises are in store for those attending the sydney convention later this year 2003. i heard this 3rd hand from someone attending the geneva convention recently.

i was just wondering if someone could clue me in?

dmouse

Welcome, UpAndAtom

I heard that, surprisingly, the WBTS will be recommending doing more in field service, studying and making sure you don't miss any meetings.

Seriously, the only surprising thing to me is that anyone actually attends these pointless gatherings.