since i am one of my weird and lackadaisical moods today and don't feel like working i started a thread this morning about guilt by association which has spawned my weird mood cuz i'm still pissed off (and not one god damned cuss word in the whole post, i'm so proud.......oops, shi...i mean shoot!
) about the subject matter!.
in that thread someone replied by the name of apple123456 or something like that.
Greetings apple. :)
This has got to be one of the busiest boards in the world!
Keeping up with everything has got to be a full time job, no wonder newbies slip through the net.
I must read only about 20% of the threads, not because I don't value them but I simply don't have the time!
october 1st 2002 watchtower.
page 16 para 20. strong faith, in turn, fortifies us to obey jehovah, even when his requirements seem to go contrary to human reasoning.. .
para 22how important, therefore, that we have an obedient attitude toward that 'slave'!.
Big Tex, check out my comments here on the Beroean example:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34717&site=3
Schedule for the articles:
Jehovah Blesses And Protects Those Who Are Obedient - November 11-17
Cultivate Obedience as the End Draws Near - November 18-24
people here often use the example of the boroeans, who examined the scriptures to test 'whether theses things were so' to try and encourage jws to test their beliefs and see if they really measure up to the bible.. as usual, the society twist scriptures so that they mean the opposite of what was intended.
anyway, that's the feeling i get after reading this study article:.
watchtower september 15th 2002. .
People here often use the example of the Boroeans, who examined the scriptures to test 'whether theses things were so' to try and encourage JWs to test their beliefs and see if they really measure up to the bible.
As usual, the Society twist scriptures so that they mean the opposite of what was intended. Anyway, that's the feeling I get after reading this study article:
So, i t doesnt mean that you should question a particular religion to see if its the truth, it means that you should test yourself, to see if you are still a good dubbie.Watchtower September 15 th 2002
Keep Practicing The Things You Have Learned
Page 18, paragraph 11
In this regard, Paul wrote: Keep testing whether you are in the faith. (2 Corinthians 13:5) The apostle urged us to keep testing ourselves to determine whether we are adhering to the body of Christian beliefs. If our ears are inclined towards disgruntled ones (what, like raped children? dm.), we need to analyse ourselves prayerfully. Are we inclined to find fault with Jehovahs people?
12. Rather than being critical, let us maintain a spiritually healthy view of the information received through personal study and congregation meetings. And instead of questioning Gods Word (read Watchtower dm.), how much wiser it is to have the attitude of the first-century Beroeans who examined the scriptures closely! Then, let us act on what we learn, turning down false stories and clinging to the truth.
just another page from the pagan daybook of mine.. .
august 15, 2002. thursday - the of thunor, or thor, the god of thunder and agriculture.. .
festival of arianrod, the great mother goddess, end of the dog days.
I'm curious, what are pagan beliefs 'in a nutshell'?
october 1st 2002 watchtower.
page 16 para 20. strong faith, in turn, fortifies us to obey jehovah, even when his requirements seem to go contrary to human reasoning.. .
para 22how important, therefore, that we have an obedient attitude toward that 'slave'!.
October 1st 2002 Watchtower
Page 16 para 20
Strong faith, in turn, fortifies us to obey Jehovah, even when his requirements seem to go contrary to human reasoning.
Para 22
How important, therefore, that we have an obedient attitude toward that 'slave'!
Page 19 para 6, 7
...the faithful slave through its Governing Body... 7. By submitting to the slave class, God's people also show their subjection to the Master, Jesus Christ.
i received this in email this morning from my daughter, who is married to an attorney.
this thing is for real.
> > aol .
Lots of scams about.
Have you had the email from someone in Africa, who desperately needs somewhere out of his country to deposit huge sums of money and you get to keep the interest?
Of course, I bet that the instant you give them your bank acount details it's bye-bye all of your money!
her ladyship and i are absolutely delighted for our youngest son, ben.. this morning, like around a hundred thousand young brits, ben awoke in a state of nervous anticipation.
today was a-level results day!http://education.guardian.co.uk/alevels2002/story/0,12321,775161,00.html.
a - level examinations are the uk's springboard for 18 year old students to move from college on to university.
My congrats to Ben!
Well done that man!
i have just read the august km insert on disfellowshipping.
on the surface it appears to be nothing new.
but looks are deceiving in that there exists a all important difference.
I believe that this KM is a preparation for the difficult times ahead.
The Society know that the Internet is eating them from the inside out. Kids are finding out the truth about the 'truth' and speading it to other kids and parents.
They must divide families in order to survive, to cling on to any members they can, otherwise the number leaving will reach epidemic proportions, possibly reaching a critical mass which will mean total disintigration.
Recent articles about not trusting family members even if they are brothers supports this.
Control is their top priority.
i have read of some people's bitterness because they were denied the opportunity to go to college.
during the 60's and 70's the society really discouraged any education other than what was necessary.
since the end was so near, especially around 1975, anybody that decided to go to "higher education" was considered very weak and unbalanced.
Yes JT, I remember that KM very well. They wanted to use my 14 year old son in that demonstration.
After reviewing the information in the KM, I forbade him from taking part. This caused some upset on the meeting night and the elder giving the part had to do without his demonstration!
It was one of the very rare occasions when I actively prevented my son from doing something related to the JW religion (he was all for the religion at the time) and of course I was slammed as an 'opposing mate'.
The following day I sent this letter to the elder concerned:
Dear Bro *******,
I am writing to express my apologies for any inconvenience caused through my withdrawing of consent for Benjamin to take part in your demonstration in Thursday's service meeting.
I feel it would be courteous to offer an explanation. I can assure you that this decision was not taken lightly. This was a very unusual action for me to take, since I am normally VERY tolerant of other's beliefs. As a rule I give consent for my family to take part in whatever religious activities they desire, accepting that most of the beliefs of Jehovahs Witnesses are relatively harmless, some are beneficial.
There are, however, some notable exceptions. I have looked at the information you gave to Benjamin, and also looked at the context in which the piece was given: part of a three part series. It is clear from reading the Kingdom Ministry that the main idea being presented is to discourage young people from considering further education over spiritual goals (pioneering).
It is this aspect of the Society's teaching that I find objectionable. I consider it extremely irresponsible, in today's competitive employment market, to discourage young people from achieving their full potential educationally. I am aware of the context of your beliefs (that the end of the world is near) but, as no one knows when or if this will happen, I consider it potentially very harmful to stress such a short-term outlook. I believe that in thirty years time many thousands of Jehovahs Witnesses will be struggling to provide for themselves and their families as a direct result of listening to such dangerous advice, indeed, this is already the case for many who listened to similar myopic advice 30, 40, 50 etc years ago.
In any case, as Benjamin's father, I feel that it is my responsibility to protect him as best as I can from harm. For this reason I have made my concerns clear to my family. I'm sure you will agree that this is what any father should do. If you wish to discuss this further I am more than willing to do so.
Yours sincerely,
Dean Moorhouse.
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Oh, and don't let them keep you in a state of bitterness about what could have been. I have just got a degree in primary education - at the age of 41.
If you didn't do it then, do it now!
Edited by - dmouse on 15 August 2002 5:8:22
i try to keep up with all the exploding developments in science.
but this one shocked me.. the sept. 2002 issue of wired magazine is claiming that a bionic.
eye has been created that is interfaced directly into the visual.
Hey, I read in the paper while on holiday that one possible application of stem-cell technology would be to grow new teeth, you just plant a stem cell in the gum and off it grows! Amazing huh? Especially so for us dentally challenged Brits.
