Thanks leaving_quietly for responding to Vanderhoven7. The GB/FDS/WT think that "prophecy" involves them, because they *think* they are part of the heavenly organization. And we al know they think they are *first row* there. Sure!
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The context of Genesis 3:15
by pixel ini just want to share my thoughts on genesis 3:15.. we all know the position of the wt/gb/fds on this, that the woman represents heavenly organization (with annointeds, of course), the serpent satan and everybody that is bad.. but to me, the context says other thing.. god is cursing the man, the woman, and the serpent.. first, he starts with the serpent, and give it a pretty mundane curse: you are going to crawl.
and will have hostility with woman's offspring.. then the woman: you will feel pain when giving birth.. then the man: you are going to work hard.. from this curses, you can read they were pretty mundane.
simple put, they were curses.
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I'm famous...
by diana netherton inokay..maybe just locally.
but the newspaper did an article and interview with me about my profession.
check out my video clip at:.
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I liked it!
You should go type in what happens in every JC...LOl.
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The context of Genesis 3:15
by pixel ini just want to share my thoughts on genesis 3:15.. we all know the position of the wt/gb/fds on this, that the woman represents heavenly organization (with annointeds, of course), the serpent satan and everybody that is bad.. but to me, the context says other thing.. god is cursing the man, the woman, and the serpent.. first, he starts with the serpent, and give it a pretty mundane curse: you are going to crawl.
and will have hostility with woman's offspring.. then the woman: you will feel pain when giving birth.. then the man: you are going to work hard.. from this curses, you can read they were pretty mundane.
simple put, they were curses.
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Hello all. I just want to share my thoughts on Genesis 3:15.
We all know the position of the WT/GB/FDS on this, that the woman represents heavenly organization (with annointeds, of course), the serpent Satan and everybody that is bad.
But to me, the context says other thing.
God is cursing the man, the woman, and the serpent.
First, he starts with the serpent, and give it a pretty mundane curse: You are going to crawl. And will have hostility with woman's offspring.
Then the woman: You will feel pain when giving birth.
Then the man: You are going to work hard.
From this curses, you can read they were pretty mundane. Simple put, they were curses. Now, how in the world the WT/GB/FDS takes this worlds from the middle of the conversation between God and the 3 and puts in a prophecy that involve them?
That's beyond me, and its crazy.
Thanks for reading.
The verses in case you want to read them:
14 And JehovahGod proceeded to say to the serpent:“Because you have done this thing, you are the cursed one out of allthe domestic animals and out of all the wild beasts of the field. Upon your belly you will go and dust is what you will eatall the days of your life. 15 And Ishall put enmitybetween youand the woman+ and between your seedand her seed.Hewill bruiseyouin the headand youwill bruise himin the heel.”
16 To the woman he said: “I shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy;in birth pangs you will bring forth children,and your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you.”
17 And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and took to eating from the tree concerning which I gave you this command,‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account.In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. And thorns and thistles it will grow for you,and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”
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A question for elders and former elders who have served on JCs
by slimboyfat inbased on your experience of judicial committees, how would you advise someone who is due to meet with the elders and has asked for the best way to avoid being disfellowshipped?
is denying everything ever a successful strategy?
does addressing a letter to the elders threatening legal action if they disfellowship ever work?
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Whatever that person do or say, he/she has to say: "Im sorry I damaged my relationship with Jehovah". Even thou it might not be true.
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The Bible as explained to my 5 year old son....
by stuckinamovement inthis is a long story son, are you sure you want to hear it?
ok here goes......... it all began when a talking snake tricked a naked lady into eating a piece of fruit.
her husband decided that he liked the fruit so he ate some too.
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...And then? Good story. Can you continue?
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Why did Lazarus Pay for his sins twice?
by criticalwitness inaccording to j dub doc the wages sins pays is death meaning to them death covers your debt of sin when lazarus died did he not pay his debt?
so when jesus resctd him why did he die again?
when jesus brought him back did he creat or recreat an imperfect being on the sinful road to destruction?
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Bumping this thread with a question: Why does the WT/FDS/GB needs this text to read that once you die, you are free from sin? Why not accept what is really saying?
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Rutherford's Paradise - Film Footage of Beth Sarim
by RayPublisher ini just added this to my youtube channel, jwstruggle.
i know that we have some resident authorities on the history around jf rutherford and i am anxious to see what they make of it.
(leolaia i'm talking to you lol!).
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You are so funny in the video Ray. Thanks for posting!
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Why does an Omni... God need Jesus and the 144,000 co-rulers?
by jwfacts inat the thread about jaracz steve2 made the following interesting comment.
by now, ted should be finding his heavenly posting a routinized bore: 4 years and still counting.
he will have chaffed at the notion that all decisions are made by jehovah god who consults no one and who brooks no questioning or independent thinking.
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Good one Terry. I guess James 4:12 is talking about the annointed.
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new FDS teaching
by inbetween inwith the study of the new teaching of july 15th wt, which will be done in septmember 2013 in sight, i try to collect all kind of objections from here and other sites, in order to have enough ammunition for discussions ready.. wih this in mind, i found an additional problemwith this new teaching.. since before 1918/19 there was no fds, ergo no channel of truth, ergo no true worship, and russel and his fellows just some "normal" folks, what about all those, who were baptized prior to 1918 ?
like freddie franz, rutherford etc, there baptism was therefore not valid, just like jw view baptisms of former catholics, protestants etc not valid and baptize them again.. ho can they be annointed, when they were not properly dunked ?
just show, with their new teaching, the fds cut the very branch they are sitting on.. .
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They are claiming that CTR and the Bible Students were like a " John the Baptist " class.
Right! And the GB is The Christ, the sons of God. Sure...
Remember also, the new FDS teaching is an "idea" that the GB LOVES...
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What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?
by minimus inthere are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..
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That Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old will return and live in America.
"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews chapter eleven, to the condition of human perfection" (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, pp. 89-90).