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  Parents smoked pot !

  by indahsempurna in

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  so my parents said they aren't going to be at my wedding.

  i called my uncle to try and talk them into it.

  being since he isn't a witness.

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  LisaRose

  Do you really want people at your wedding that you had to blackmail to get there? Do you really want to screw over your own parents? Sure they are hypocrites, but they are still your parents. Your blackmailing them will not force them out. It will just create ill will. You know the brainwashing that brought them to this stupid decision. Have a great wedding and send them the pictures.
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  I HAVE MADE A DECISION TO LEAVE

  by Maddie in

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  i haven't been on jwd for the last few days as my good friend had her mum die suddenly and i have been spending time just being there for my friend.. i was shocked and saddened to hear that trevor and linda was a sham.

  it's sometimes hard not to become cynical with life and not trust anyone when this sort of thing happens.. i have made a big decision and i hope that i don't live to regret it.

  i have posted that i have been trying to "fade" as my son and his family are jw's and i don't want to lose them because of being shunned.

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  LisaRose

  I think you have made the right decision for yourself. It is hard knowing that your son may cut off contact with you, but you have a right to live your life in your own way, as does he. I also recomend you send a letter before to tell him about this, assure him you love him and always will, but that you cannot live a lie.
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  Okay! I Can't Take It Anymore........

  by journey-on in

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  we've let our guard down since terry's been gone.

  i'm ready to resurrect the infamous spelling post!.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/138846/1.ashx.

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  LisaRose

  From now on, it's just clean fun for me AND my spell checker.
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  My mother......sheesh!

  by ex-nj-jw in

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  for those who missed the drama, you can check it out here if you wish to www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/140100/1.ashx.

  for those who know a little about my past and my mother - she had the nerve to call me today and leave an urgent message for me to call her.

  i thought it was about my dad or that something bad had happened since her last comment to me was that i was dead to her, or something to that effect.

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  LisaRose

  My mom was pretty much the same. Even when I was a JW, I was never a good enough one for her. She had 6 kids, of which only 1 was active when she died. I went to see her after I left and before she passed away. We had a good visit, then she sent me a letter saying she enjoyed the visit but couldn't talk to me anymore. So I didn't call, then I hear she upset because I never call. Then she passes away. I loved her but frankly I didn't miss her that much. It was just crazy making. I understood that she felt conflicted (she loved me, but due to Watchtower brainwashing, felt guilty talking to me). But really, make a stand and stick to it. Talk to me, or don't, but don't keep going back and forth. I have to say she never wrote a letter as nasty as the one your mom wrote. Sheesh is right! I'd send it right back to her and ask if she thinks this is a Christian way to handle things. It's just rude and hatefull.
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  Arguing with an Avatar/Alias

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  am i correct in saying that lots and lots of people who post on this site have physically met each other?

  and chatted together face to face?

  and know each other personally?.

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  LisaRose

  Part of the problem in that face to face, we can see nuances, tone of voice, expressions and other things that help us understand the meaning of the words. I had the same problem working at a corporation that used AOL online extensively. It was very handy to use, but sometimes caused problems that wouldn't have happend face to face. It was easier to mis-contrue or take offence at things.
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  The best revenge

  by Junction-Guy in

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  so are you happier outside the jw's than inside?.

  do you like having freedom, or are circumstances too overwhelming to appreciate it now?

  is happiness in small things possible, even when we're still in the process of "getting it all together"?

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  LisaRose

  I have a pretty good life, however I still have to work at keeping a positive mental attitude. Everyone's life is mixture of both good and bad, and we don't always have control over everything that happens to us. I struggle with depression which I believe is genetic. After I got on a good anti-depressant (which took 3 tries) I found my outlook totally changed. Little things (like eating) became much more enjoyable and pleasurable. My whole outlook improved and life became much more positive. However that medication is not as effective anymore, so I am trying other things. I find meditation helps as well as exercise. I do think we have some control over our own happiness, no matter what has happened in the past. It's not simple or easy, but possible. Lola28 - your comments were harsh and unhelpful. People come to this site for help and support, not to be put down. Junction-guy - I would suggest you sit down and write down all the things that were good about your life when you were happy, then ways in which you can bring some of those things back into your life. Then work on a plan to do so. I have enjoyed your comments in the past, I wish you well in your pursuit of happiness.
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  greetings fellow apostates!

  by SethMo in

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  i should introduce myself, since this is my first post.

  i'm actually not an ex-jw, but rather someone who has just lost his faith in a different church, the mormon church.

  i've long suspected that in terms of the organizational aspects of our two churches, how they hook you mentally, how they condition you, how they socialize you and make it very hard to leave, from an abstract level there's really not a dime's worth of difference.

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  LisaRose

  The funny thing is I used to feel so superior to Mormons. I just couldn't understand how they could believe all these wacko things that Joseph Smith taught. Of course my religion was sooo much better! The joke was on me, as the things I believed were just as stupid. If you are raised with a certain belief or you come to be converted to a certain belief, you only associate with those people who believe, and it is constantly reinforced through constant brainwashing sessions, you just don't question things. I have 3 Mormon familys on my cul-de-sac, and although they are very nice people, it creeps me out because the culture is so similar.
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  How did you break away?

  by zennin in

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  7 months ago i came to a foreign country on a working holiday visa for, you know, a 'wonderful experience'- i had plans to pioneer and a kind of determination to use this time to prove to myself, and to jehovah, that i can be loyal to him no matter what.... have i failed?

  i don't think so, but even as i type this i think it is too early for me to answer or even ask that question.. all i know is that during the past 7 months i have done more research and more deep thinking and meditation than i have done in my whole life.

  i have met wonderful wonderful people- many of them witnesses who have helped me out immensely and shown me a lot of kindness, and many of them non-witnesses- just ordinary people with their own moral foundations and personal philosophies.

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  After 28 years in a miserable marriage, I realized that staying had not been for the best for me, or my now ex-husband, or my 2 kids. I had suffered needlessly trying to keep to the teachings of the Watchtower. I decided that if Jehovah was going to destroy me at the "Big A" for choosing happiness in my life, so be it. But I really couldn't imagine it and was not going to worry about it. I left the marriage, found a wonderfull guy and have been happy for 8 years.
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  When someone is suicidal they say they should talk but...

  by FreedomFrog in

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  when the person is so low in spirit and they try to talk, all they hear "quit being a baby and suck it up".

  or they over hear ones say about another people that is depressed "oh, they are just saying this for attention".. i was thinking about all of this because of two things.

  when my friend jen took her life last month she was so depressed and none of us knew.

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  LisaRose

  Your friend is in real danger. I've been so depressed that I didn't want to talk to anyone also, so I understand why she would say that, but you need to intervene anyway. I would just say "I know you are down and you don't want to talk about it, but I am concerned about you. Promise me you won't do anything rash. I want to call and make an appointment for you, what is your doctors name?" She could outright refuse, but at least you can give it a chance. She isn't seeking help because it takes to much energy which she doesn't have right now. If you take the initiative it may be easier for her just to let you lead her. I've been on both sides of this issue, so that's what I would do.
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  Halloween... Is it for you?

  by Honesty in

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  so, tell us.. what or who are you going as on halloween?.

  i'm thinking about doing the neutral thing and going as.... .

  tricky dicky.

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  LisaRose

  I have a costume I've used for a few years now. I call it the Fabulous Fat Fifty Flower Fairy, as the first time I wore it was the year I turned 50. I've had a lot of fun with it.