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  Here we go again. The next hate letter from our 2nd Son.

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes it happen again with our youngest son.

  this last monday we got a letter from him telling us how unloving we are because we are no longer jw.

  cult and not had kids.

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  LisaRose

  I think a letter is an excellent idea. Since he has been so disrespectful as to tell his own parents that they must do things his way, you are entirely within your rights to defend yourself. Tell him that if you knew when he was young that it was a religion based on lies you would not have been a JW, you simply did the right thing by leaving, that your conscience does not allow you to live a lie.
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  Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

  see last item:.

  "media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".

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  LisaRose

  From my own experience and having read dozens of accounts, a lot of factors determine who gets disfellowshipped in cases of serious sin, (or what the Watchtower considers serious sin). The elders can and do take a lot of factors into consideration, and do use their own judgement when determining guilt or innocence, so it's ridiculous to maintain that their hands are tied when it comes to child abuse.

  The Watchtower knows that their policies can and do enable pedophiles to freely operate in the congregation, and they don't care. The scriptures they use to defend their practices are very much open to interpretation, the bible doesn't even talk about "judicial committees" and the word disfellowship mentioned. But the Watchtower stubbornly refuses to change, they would rather continue to see children abused than admit that there might be a better way to do things, when the reality is that they flip flop on doctrine constantly in other matters.

  Common sense and basic human decency dictates that you don't put children at risk, anything else is contrary to the very basic biblical command to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The elders who become aware of a pedophile can take steps to protect their children, but they leave other families vulnerable, how could that possibly be considered right, or moral or Christian?

  Rather than stand on a rigid and debatable interpretation of a few scriptures, the scripture the Watchtower should be concerned with is Matthew 7:21-23

  …21"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
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  Have you been J-SNUBBED? HOW RUDE!

  by sparrowdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got to thinking the other day about how the wt uses loaded language.

  and spin to give thinly veiled credence and so-called respectability to their policies.. but why not call a spade a spade.

  why not identify the true nature of a policy,.

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  LisaRose

  New Light = We are making things up as we go along.
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  What do you want for Christmas?

  by Hortensia in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.

  i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.

  i wouldn't mind getting any of those.

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  LisaRose

  It's hard to think of things, I have most of what I want in a material way. Socks, I never have enough, too many that went to the land of lost socks. I would like a smart phone, I don't really need one, but it would be nice to have one anyway. Better health if I could really dream. A new area rug would be nice, the old one is too small and its stained.
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  Merry Christmas to all of you on JWN and to those of you that have escaped mind control!

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  merry christmas people!

  here's my take on xmas.

  enjoy this lovely close to 2014 my friends:.

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  LisaRose

  My husband and I just put up our Christmas lights and outside greenery and I got a start on the inside decorations, tomorrow we will get the tree. I love to decorate for the holidays and really appreciate having the freedom to do so, especially since I missed it for so many years.
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  Finally Gave My First Anti-Witness After 11 Years

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello one and all.. the local jws had a booth set up at my university today and something just came over me.

  i went to a computer, found a list of failed prophecies, printed and stapled it, and walked over to the middle aged woman and the 10-ish years old girl.

  the woman said "if you are interested in anything, take it for free.

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  LisaRose

  Well done! It's hard to do what you did, either you don't feel comfortable saying anything negative, or you do say something against the Watchtower, but in an angry and confrontational way, which causes people to get their back up and ignore what you say. To be able to state your truth while being nice is an achievement.
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  what would happen If?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i submitted a letter to the local k hall, explaining that i no longer believe my baptism as a jw is valid, based on my current bible knowlege.

  and i wish to be no longer considered a baptised [in this organization], jw, but simply a christain who studies the bible.. and then would continue to attend meetings?.

  they couldnt prevent me, its open to the public.. .

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  LisaRose

  This religion is like the hotel California, you can check in but you can never check out.
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  Funeral for an atheist

  by Stealth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  99% of all funerals that i have attended have been the wt version, where they preach about the resurrection into paradise and say little about the person who passed other than they were loyal to jah.

  the other 1% catholic for grandparents.. now that i consider myself an atheist, i got to wondering what do atheists plan for when they die?.

  if you are a non-believer what are your plans for when you die?

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  LisaRose

  After they take whatever organs may be of some use, I want to be cremated and my ashes spread in San Francisco bay. I told my husband a cheap pine box is good enough for the cremation, I won't know the difference, and it will only be used for a short time anyway.
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  Your favourite dog breed ...?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. family

  in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.

  huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.

  this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.

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  LisaRose

  I love them all, I couldn't choose one. I had a husky mix dog, she was the best dog ever. She was sweet and gentle, but I believe she would have defended me to the death. She loved my grandson, and when he was a baby she would guard him, if he started crying she would whine at us until we did something. As a toddler he got up on the table, so she came to get us in the other room and let us know there was a problem. We moved to another state so she didn't see him for a few years. She was an old, very sedate dog by then, but she ran around the house like a puppy she was so happy to see him. She was big, about 95 pounds, but lived until she was fourteen.
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  My dog just died.

  by panhandlegirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just buried my beloved poddle, little brother.

  he died suddenly.

  i know to most people that is not an important event.

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  LisaRose

  I am so sorry for your loss. While I don't equate the life of a pet to that of a human, I have had several "fur children" through the years, they become such a part of your life that losing them is very hard. I had a big husky mix girl that lived to age fourteen and a dainty tuxedo cat that died at seventeen, that's a lot of years shared, I felt the loss deeply, I held them both as they were euthanized.

  My current cat is a dilute tortie named Lizzie. She makes me laugh out loud at least once a day, I don't know what I would do without her. This week I was missing a tube of cortisone cream, so I looked under the bed and found it, as well as two boxes of Kleenex that had also gone missing. I knew Lizzie did it because one of the boxes was shoved up in the box springs. Why Kleenex, and how she managed to get it up there I have no idea. She has been known to find things, but usually she brings her treasures to share/show off, obviously she was keeping these to herself, the little thief. I guess that also explains the missing box of cat nip.

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