Posts by LisaRose

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'Covenant' Marriages -- A new type of marriage, harder to divorce

by rebel8 in

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as i understand it, covenant marriages are available in a few states.

they are a supersonic, superfine version of conservative marriage.

it's harder to divorce--it has to be with certain causes or agreement of both spouses.. covenant marriages have been criticized by human rights advocates as a potential tool for abusive spouses to restrict the escape of their victims.. in at least one state, the couple must receive premarital counseling and the signature of the counselor before obtaining a covenant marriage.

LisaRose

. Some statistics I've heard thrown around are something like 50% of marriages ending in divorce, 70% of divorces initiated by women, and the majority of the reasons given by these women are "I'm no longer satisfied with him."

Where are these statistics from? I seriously doubt "I am no longer satisfied with him" is a reason given by many woman at all, much less the majority.

According to top10s, the number one reason for divorce is marital infidelity. Since statistically men cheat on their marriage more than women, I seriously doubt "I am no longer satisfied by him" is in fact a big reason for divorce. Number two is communication breakdowns, number three is abuse, number four is financial issues. In fact "I am no longer satisfied by him" doesn't even make the top ten. I guess you could include it in the number six reason "boredom", but to prove your point you would have to prove that women get bored more often than men.

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Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

by aley63 in

i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

LisaRose

Thanks for posting that, I had never seen it before.

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pissed off my wife today at the assembly..I asked her why the bozo GB member lett has a pinky ring.

by goingthruthemotions in

so at the assembly to day that nitwit lett gave a talk....i noticed right away he had a pinky ring.

i asked my wife what was the purpose of the pinky ring?

and then asked....would jesus wear a pinky?

LisaRose

You are judgemental? That's laughable, what about spanx? Tight Pants tony? They can dish it out but can't take it?

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Songs celebrating leaving the faith? Not being a puppet, mind controlled, living life, etc etc

by aley63 in

i am looking for some songs that are in ref to celebrating leaving, seeing the light, realizing what you were told wasnt right, being happy w your life, etc etc.

all those emotions about being controlled and repressed, being told what you can feel or think or how to live, blindly following the "brotherhood ".

LisaRose

Good one, village idiot. I was still a JW when that song was popular, it did strike me at the time that I was losing my religion.

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The GB, Black Magicians?

by What is Truth? in

would you consider the members of the governing body of jw's to be in black magicians in the modern world?

for your consideration their effects in society.. 6.2 black magic spells.

in black magic, the priests cast spells: they recite formulas, conduct rituals, make magic items.

LisaRose

There is no such thing as black magic, you don't need that, just people who know how to manipulate others, just like every cult. I am pretty sure there are in actuality a few people running the show, the rest are idiots who are just as, or even more manipulated than the rank and file. If Lett is anything more than a stooge, he deserves an award for acting.

It may make you feel better to think this is some other worldly machination, but really it is quite easy to fool people who want to be fooled, or who gain something by buying into a concept. People who became JWs were concerned by world events and and/or wanted to think they had special knowledge. Everything in their playbook is cult 101, nothing mysterious, doesn't require anything other than a will to use others for their own ends. Who knows what that end is, but it's likely quite banal, like financial security or a need to control others.

Just a$$holes in the end.

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Elders, disfellowshipping, & baseball umpires

by sir82 in

ok bear with me for second on this one..... i was just reading the other day about "pitchf/x", a type of technology that can accurately track whether a pitch in baseball is a ball or a strike.. a couple of analysts went over 6 years of baseball data.. it turns out that umpires are wrong about balls & strikes about 14% of the time.

what they call a "ball" is really a "strike" about 13% of the time, and what they call a "strike" is really a "ball" about 15% of the time.

here is the article.. that's at the major league level.. umpires have to work their way up to the major leagues, just as players do.

LisaRose

And the real kicker is that really good people are sometimes not good at saying the right thing, or may be too depressed to be able to say much, while some others are great at lying and acting repentant, so the percentage is probably far worse than that.

That's even supposing they are entitled to judge anyone's else repentance in the first place. The bible just says you shouldn't associate with anyone called a Christian who engages in immoral behavior. It doesn't say it's a formal arrangement, just something you would do if you know yourself that someone is engaging in a long term practice of sin. Nowhere does it say a committee is formed, or three people get to judge you for making a mistake. As Jesus said "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". There is no determining of repentance, repentance is shown by stopping the behavior.

Nothing in the bible indicates that people are disposable, that they can be cut off from family and friends at the whim of a few elders. They don't even give people a chance to repent, but act as judge, jury and executioner. The person then has to live with being shunned for a year or more before they will even be talked too, all the while going to meetings and being humiliated on a weekly basis. Finally they may be allowed in, if they kiss enough butt to "prove" their repentance.

Many can't stomach that level of humiliation and give up, and who could blame them? The worst sin in the bible is stumbling one of your own brothers, so who is really the sinner in this equation?

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merk ch 16 says all believers of jesus will perform miracles....

by sowhatnow in

15 he said to them, go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

16 whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

17 and these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.. 19 after the lord jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of god.

LisaRose

Sounds to me that statements in the bible shouldn't be taken literally

Ya think? 71 people have died handling snakes as part of a religious ritual, usually in a Pentecostal church of some sort.

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Reading this might be hard.. Emotionally.. This is the truth...

by Jaewook kim in

every second our watch ticks, thats frequency of our current time.

the frequency will hit our reality every 1 second.. same method for rainbow frequency.. this is where i need your scientists.

need confirmation of change on fact of time.. and this... is truth of jehovah.... under sugar water, blue light will appear on left side.. under salt water, red light will appear on right side.. this concept is same for our heart.

LisaRose

You are right about one thing, this was really hard to read.

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Life after JW

by bsand20 in

haven't been on this site since fall of last year.

i was very active in spreading awareness and getting information to help me cope with the fact that my mother cut off complete communication with me as of jan 2014, but i guess too much of a good thing was too much for me to handle.

i ended up getting panic/anxiety attacks.

LisaRose

I highly recommend meditation. It has been life changing for me and has been proven to reduce stress, lower blood pressure and help with anxiety and depression. Control your breathing and you control your emotions, it's really that simple

I also recommend journaling. Sit down every day and write down everything that is in your head. Don't filter, just write three pages. After a while you will start to see a theme, those thoughts and triggers that are bothering you.

These two things will help you sift through your conflicting thoughts and emotions and help you deal with them. Someone once said that it's not what happens to you that causes problems, it's how you feel about what happens to you. As ex JWs, we can usually do nothing about the hand we were delt, but we can control our feelings and emotions about what has happened.

I hope that helps, feel free to pm me if you have any questions.

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What are you up to this summer?

by Xanthippe in

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friends

i really enjoy hearing about other people's lives.

feeling a little lonely this evening so please tell me if you have plans for the summer months.

i may go to some outdoor theatre with my daughter who's home from uni; with a picnic and a bottle of wine.

LisaRose

July 29th is my fifteenth wedding anniversary, we are going to Eureka (northern Califoria coast) and staying at a bed and breakfast. It's been busy summer, so a few days by the ocean is something to look forward to.