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  Need Help! JW Grandmother (may be) Going to Court for Visitation

  by Expanded-Mind in

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  i am hoping someone may be able to give me some guidance on behalf of my son.

  my ex-wife, who remains a jw, is threatening to go to court to get visitation with our 5 year old grandchild.

  she had regular visits with our grandchild, but when my son (no longer a jw) and his wife (never a jw) found out that his mother was teaching their daughter the jw religion without their permission and even telling our grandchild not to tell their parents... well to say the least, that was a game-changer.

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  LisaRose

  It's her own fault that she tried to brainwash the child, she is probably just trying to deflect attention away from her own actions by bluffing about a lawyer. It's very, very unlikely the court will award visitation against a parents wishes, and certainly not in this scenario. A few have tried, but not many suceed. If she wants to waste money on lawyers, well then you will have to hire one as well, but I think after she cools down and actually visits a lawyer she will think twice about spending thousands of dollars with little chance she will win.
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  Going to a bad place when i die

  by 060702015 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've thought and said too much to ever gain jehovahs forgiveness and love if i want to be a christian again.

  i made a topic on my unforgivable sin and blaspemy of the holy spirit.. i feel saddness everyday having no relationship with god, no religion and fear of the afterlife.

  even when i was kid i feared death and the end of the world.

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  LisaRose

  I am so sorry you feel that way.

  First, the bible says we are all imperfect, and God is a just God, so why do you feel that you have done something so unforgivable that God would not forgive you? I don't mean for you to tell me, but, come on, everybody makes mistakes. Do you remember the prodigal son in the bible? He did all kind of horrible things, despite a loving father, yet he was warmly welcomed when he came home.

  The JWs have it pretty much all wrong anyway, so if you feel bad because of them, forget about it. They do not represent God. You are engaging in the black and white thinking that they love, but it's just nonsense. They cover up child sexual abuse, so that tells you how much they speak for God. If there is such a thing as an unforgivable sin they have done it by appointing pedophiles to be elders and making date predictions that are all wrong, and making perfectly nice people feel wrong for not living up to impossible standards.

  Pray for forgiveness then get on with your life, leave this stupid cult and free yourself from the guilt, it isn't helping you.
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  Sad about the past

  by Gorbatchov in

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  today i feel deep sad memories in my brain.. visiting bookstudy with my parents, doing my best giving answers at 7 years old.. doing fieldservice every weekend and on an evening.. i could write so much story's about it.. we believed from our hart and listened to what the organisation told us.. it makes me sad, what a scam it became.. today i can't stand it.. i can cry about it.

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  LisaRose

  There is nothing wrong with crying, it's a good start actually. It shows you understand the totality of what has been done to you. It usually takes a while to get to that stage, there is often a certain amount of denial at first. Now you can start fresh and begin to move on and heal.
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  New York Post. Jehovah's Witnesses hid over 1000 sex abuse cases

  by ToesUp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://nypost.com/2015/07/27/jehovahs-witnesses-hid-over-1000-sex-abuse-cases/.

  ny post.

  i hope many people see this information.

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  This is great. Of course they have already warned people not to believe the media, that it's just Satan attacking them, but not every one will fall for that. It might also make field service uncomfortable. People used to think JWs were that strange religion that didn't celebrate Christmas, now they will think of it as that strange religion that protected pedophiles.
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  JW Hatred and Elders Apathetic Manners Drove Me Here! Why are JWs fooled in to thinking the WTS Cares?

  by Judas Maccabee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for years i've been screwed with by some very bad people, people satan would kick out of his organization because even the devil might let up on evil just to allow someone to catch their breath.

  with the jwism's bad people move up while good people move down or leave the kingdom hall for good.

  i was talking with two elders who said "you know if you return to the kingdom hall, jehovah will bless you and these people will stop screwing with you.

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  LisaRose

  Welcome!

  There is a saying that goes: All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

  Jehovah need's his financial support

  Right, the all powerful creator of the universe needs money? Why would a just God allow an evil person to flourish because he needed the money? Sounds like an ineffectual, weak God to me. The bible says that God could make the stones cry out, yet he is powerless to stop an abusive person in his own organization? Rationalize much? The Watchtower criticizes other religions for less than this. Guess what, this kind of behavior proves this religion does not have God's backing.

  I dont know of any way to leave, live your life with integrity and not get the apostate label. It's very hard to maintain a double life, it takes a toll on you physically, mentally and emotionally. What is holding you back from leaving? Are you afraid your wife will leave you? That is a valid fear. Some have left and convinced their spouse to leave also, but it's very difficult, especially if your wife checks up on you like that, it doesn't sound as if she would be open to it.

  Proceed with caution.
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  JW ended a relationship with me

  by V1922 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  my jw boyfriend just ended a year and a half relationship with me.

  it came out the blue and i'm deeply hurt by this because we were so compatible.

  he did it right before the big annual gathering he is presently attending.

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  Many Jehovah's Witnesses are nice, as then tend to attract honest hearted people looking for a better life. Unfortunately they have been manipulated using cult mind control. Before you get further involved you owe it to yourself to learn more about the religion and cults and how they work. I suggest JW facts.com and howcultswork.com as a starting point.

  The Watchtower Bible and Tract society, the legal entity behind Jehovah's Witnesses, is very dishonest about their history and practices. They have predicted the end of the world numerous times, most notably in 1914 and 1975. They then pretend they never predicted any such thing. JWs are told to not trust any source but them, they are especially told not to talk to former members, as we are "mentally diseased apostates". Our crime is not believing the Watchtower is God's only channel of communication for mankind, or doing things most people consider normal, like voting, saluting the flag or celebrating Christmas. We all have family and friends who will not talk to us because we left the religion.

  We frequently see people post here in similar situations to you. JWs may leave the group and do things they are my allowed to while in the religion. They may fall in love and get married outside the religion. Unfortunately they often start feeling guilty and/or miss their family and friends and so go back as your boyfriend has. This is very hard on their marriage or relationship.

  If you get married and have children, how will you feel about them being raised in the religion and not allowed to celebrate birthdays and Christmas? How will you feel about him going to five hours of services every week plus going out in the door to door work every Saturday? Every JW has an obligation to do these things. How will you feel about your spouse refusing a blood transfusion for himself or your children? What if you break up and he convinces your children to join the group? Marriage is hard enough without all these complicating factors, so think about what that might mean for you.

  I know it must be heart breaking to have this happen, but be very careful before proceeding with a relationship with this man. Make sure you understand what you are getting into.
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  This generation revisited.

  by Bigdummy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's 1:30 am and i'm wide awake again as usual.

  i was doing a little bible reading yesterday and.

  came across luke 11:29 where jesus states " when the crowds were increasing, he began to say,.

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  LisaRose

  Manipulating people by predicting doom is hard. You have to walk a fine line between making people believe the end is really soon (so you think you need them to save you) and actually predicting a specific date, which inevitably proves you are just making things up. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is pretty good at this, and why not, they have been doing it for over a hundred years. They lead people to make assumptions, then pretend it wasn't their fault that you made assumptions.

  They have gotten away with it so far, but being a doomsday cult is not what it used to be The internet makes it hard to hide things and people are just not as gullible as they used to be. The generation teaching is a weak point for them. They have redefined it to the point of being absurd. People buy it, sort of, because they don't have much choice, but it has to be a question mark for a lot of people, they may not leave right now, but they may start to be less invested in the religion, miss some meetings, skip field service more and contribute less.
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  Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

  by WildeLover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

  i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

  it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

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  LisaRose

  I wish we were as diabolical and organized as the Watchtower pretends we are. If we actually were "mentally diseased apostates" we would be able to take advantage of the latest developments to hit them while they are struggling.
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  Is there new light on Yoga

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  LisaRose

  Next thing you know he'll be puttin' on a pair of them spanx.
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  Witnesses and anxiety disorder

  by mana11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i saw this on a public user group for jw's .

  the librarian [email protected].

  the caption reads:.

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  LisaRose

  how about fibro myalgia ? i know several female ex jws who have it--yet i dont know anyone else who has. i'd never heard of it before.

  It's pretty common even among non JWs, but I do think JWs are more prone. I have it since my JWs days so unfortunately I have had to think a lot about how it happened. Fibromyalgia is believed to be a problem with the pain signals in the brain. It can be caused by stress and overuse of the muscles, but other than that no one really knows. Men do get fibro, but it is more common than women.

  I believe it's a combination of my inborn personality (sensitive and introverted) plus the guilt inducing effects of the cult (never good enough) plus some traumatic life events (child suicide attempts, near death of spouse) plus physical trauma (car accident), plus stressful job, plus social isolation (disfellowshipped husband) . The result is fibromyalgia, widespread pain and muscle soreness. Lack of adequate sleep is believed to be a factor, you can produce symptoms simply by depriving people of sleep. There are tender spots in various places on the body, fibromyalgia is diagnosed when there is pain in at least nine of the eighteen potential points, which are in the same spots for everyone. Sometimes there is a visible lump in the points.

  As some others have pointed out, women in the organization have no power and little status.There is a psychological price in the high expectations of the JW life, especially when there is little support or respect. You are either killing yourself trying to meet these expectations or you are feeling guilty about it because you didn't, then when you do get fibromyalgia people usually just think you are faking, because you don't look sick. I have heard many here express the belief that women just make this up to get out of going to meetings. That attitude just adds to your stress and make things worse, it becomes a vicious cycle. The fatigue and pain can be debilitating.

  I knew of a case in my congregation. She was the much loved eldest daughter ( I used to think of her as the princess, dad was an elder and she was a pioneer.) She got married and they both were accepted at Bethel. Having read many accounts of Bethel life here I can only imagine that it was a huge culture shock in going from pioneer princess to a status of "lower than whale poop in the Marianas trench" only accepted because they wanted her husband. The petty jealousy and abuse that gets meted out to new ones would be hard to take. She worked in the laundry folding clothes, something that would be a problem for anyone prone to this, the respective motion alone could cause it. Within a year she got fibromyalgia, she was in her early twenties.